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All right, we're reading from A.W.
Tozer for The Christian
Leader for May 5th.
And it's called Great Preachers.
Did you notice I put Pastor
Jack Hibbs on that?
I did.
I thought that was appropriate.
Yes.
Because we believe right now
he is one of the great
preachers in the world, I would say.
Of our time.
The reference for AW is 1
Corinthians 2.12 that says,
Now we have received not
the spirit of the world,
but the spirit which is of God,
that we might know the
things that are freely
given to us of God.
I'm against the idea of
putting the big preachers
on tape and playing them
back to the congregations
that feel they are being
starved by listening to little preachers.
Fallacy, brethren,
a thousand times fallacy.
If we could have the Apostle
Paul on tape recordings and
let him stand here and preach,
he could do no more for you
than the Holy Ghost can do
with the book and the human conscience.
Oh, brethren,
I would not distract or
detract from God's great men,
but I can safely say that
that's not what the church needs.
The church needs to listen
to the inner voice and do
something about it.
Amen.
I don't know if I necessarily agree.
Okay,
so the Apostle Paul could not do
anything more for you than
the Holy Ghost.
Obviously,
no one can do anything more for
you than the Holy Ghost can.
But if you wanted to put the
parallel between the
Apostle Paul and little preachers,
come on now.
Obviously,
the Apostle Paul and tape would
have been extraordinary.
Probably the only thing that
could trump that is the Holy Ghost.
Is it little preachers?
Is he talking about new preachers?
pastors or those of small
churches like I'm assuming
he's not meaning stature so
I'm assuming he's meaning
small churches small
congregations because I
don't think he means new
preachers because he would
have said new little versus
big I'm I'm thinking it
means congregational size
it makes the most sense
I was thinking that it's
like knowledgeable,
like he would be considered
a big preacher, AW.
And, you know.
I think he would assume that
even if you have a small congregation,
you should be just as
educated as a guy who leads a big one.
You can't go to like the
Bible college online.
Because you only have 10
people in your congregation.
You don't really have to know a lot.
How significant are those 10 people?
Like it's a small group.
It's a small group.
Who cares?
You don't need to be educated.
That'd be terrible.
I don't think he means that.
I think he means big church.
Mega church versus little
church on the hill.
What do you guys think?
So what is it?
So he's saying...
It's a little bit all over the place.
This part here.
Oh, brethren,
I would not detract from God's great men,
but I can safely say that
that's not what the church needs.
I don't believe that either.
I think we do need great men.
The church needs to listen
to the inner voice and do
something about it.
Does that mean they need to
fire that little preacher
and hire a big preacher?
I'm a little confused.
Right.
Because it's a little all over the place.
I think he means we have to
listen to the voice,
meaning the Holy Spirit,
which is why he gave this
scripture that we have been
given the spirit of God and
we need to listen to it.
Similar to what Spence said today,
that we can't just be
hearers of the word.
We have to be doers of the word.
That's the Lord telling us that too.
So he's basically saying, yeah,
it'd be great if everybody
had a famous pastor,
but that's not what we need.
We don't need more famous pastors.
We need people to actually
do what they're told.
And passionate about the book.
But here,
when he says we don't need great
men as opposed to famous preachers,
I actually think we need great men.
We may not need any more famous preachers,
but we need great men
because Carl Lentz was a
famous preacher and we
don't need more of him.
we need great men he was in
a big church but he was a
little preacher yeah well I
mean he considered himself
a big preacher I think most
people I mean he his son
his friday his sunday
audience was in musicals
like there were stadiums 8
000 people it was ginormous
and then he was fondling his nanny
I'll be back to Judges 19.
Back to Judges 19.
There's nothing new under the sun, folks.
The Bible doesn't tell us what happened.
It tells us what always happens.
Well, what are people saying?
Lisa Hernandez says she's
late to the party,
but you weren't that late.
Not that late.
Nice to see you, Jan.
Hi there.
Happy Sunday, folks.
And Kate says, I keep missing you guys.
Hi, Kate.
Lisa's saying hi.
Hello, hello.
So what do we want to take
from this little message?
How do we... Listen to the Holy Spirit.
I think we should read the scripture.
I think it'll be helpful.
Okay, let's do that.
Let's do this.
Okay, so this is 1 Corinthians 2.
Such an important message.
Apostle Paul speaking to the
Church of Corinthians.
And so he's basically trying
to distinguish between
words of men and words of the spirit.
So he says, when I first came to you,
dear brothers and sisters,
I didn't use lofty words
and impressive wisdom to
tell you God's secret plan.
For I decided that while I was with you,
I would forget everything
except Jesus Christ,
the one who was crucified.
I came to you in weakness,
timid and trembling.
And my message and my
preaching were very plain.
Rather than using clever and
persuasive speeches,
I relied on the power of the Holy Spirit.
I did this so you would not
trust in human wisdom,
but the power of God.
Okay,
so he's saying I'm not using crafty
words.
I'm not a, you know, a celebrity preacher.
I came with the truth.
He continues,
yet when I'm among mature believers,
I do speak with words of wisdom,
but not the kind of wisdom
that belongs to this world
or rulers of this world who
are soon forgotten.
No,
the wisdom we speak is the mystery of God,
his plan that was previously hidden,
even though he made it for
our ultimate glory before
the world began.
But the rulers of this world
have not understood it.
If they had,
they would not have crucified
our glorious Lord.
That is what the scripture
means when they say,
no eye has seen and no ear
has heard and no mind has
imagined what God has
prepared for those who love him.
So Paul is quoting from
Isaiah 64 and basically
explaining why the
Israelites had crucified God.
Jesus,
because they didn't know he was the
Messiah.
So it continues.
But it was to us that God
revealed these things by his spirit.
For his spirit teaches and
searches out everything and
shows us God's deep secrets.
No one can know a person's
thoughts except that person's own spirit.
And no one can know God's
thoughts except God's own spirit.
And we have received God's spirit.
So we know the wonderful
things that God has freely given us.
When we tell you these things,
we don't use words that
come from human wisdom.
Instead,
we speak words given to us by the Spirit,
using the Spirit's words to
explain spiritual truths.
But people who aren't
spiritual cannot receive
the truth of God's spirits.
It sounds foolish to them,
and they can't understand it.
For only those who are
spiritual can understand
what the Spirit means.
Those who are spiritual can
evaluate all things,
but they themselves cannot
be evaluated by others.
For who can know the Lord's thoughts?
Who knows enough to teach him?
But we understand these
things for we have the mind of Christ.
It's huge.
So he's basically saying,
don't pay attention to
fancy words and my skinny
jeans and my expensive sweater.
I wore a very expensive
sweater again today.
Pay attention to the fact
that I speak with words
that come from God.
I mean, that's profound.
He's basically saying, I am so,
Paul's saying, I'm so holy.
I'm so righteous.
I am a conduit of the spirit of God.
And the words I speak are
God's spirit's words.
And if you can understand them,
you have that same spirit.
Because otherwise it sounds wacky to you.
It sounds like foolishness.
I mean, that's profound.
That's profound.
So that's what Tosha is talking about.
We need that.
We need people who speak with that.
It doesn't matter if they're fat, skinny,
tall, little or big preachers.
We need preachers filled
with the spirit of God.
I felt like, oh my gosh,
I looked up his name so I
would remember it.
Our speaker today.
Mike Spence.
I really felt that he is
speaking from a place of knowing God.
Yes.
I felt that his message
today was very... I mean,
I love that he was passionate.
Absolutely.
And he spoke very boldly
about what it is that we
are supposed to...
understand about being a
follower of Jesus Christ.
And that is the say yes to
anything that he says,
which is my big takeaway from today.
I thought about it all day.
Like it's like, I felt, oh my gosh,
I just said like,
I've been hanging around my
teenagers too much.
I just felt that I don't
know that I have been in
that place entirely.
All of our lives, Wayne.
I'm trying to verify and
make sure that I say his name right.
I mean,
even to when the moment before he
said it.
That I'm not sure that I
thought about it that way.
And I know I've heard him speak before,
and I think he said the
same thing once before.
But it didn't impact me as it does now.
The more that I grow...
you know, as a follower of Jesus Christ.
I hear more and I see more.
Of course.
And when he said that today,
it just made me nervous.
When he said what?
When he said,
we are to say yes and then
ask him what it is we're supposed to do.
not wait to hear what he has to say,
and then decide whether or
not to say yes.
And when he said that,
it just made me so nervous.
And I don't get nervous very often.
I don't remember the last
time I was nervous.
But other than when I met
you online at Calvary Chapel,
I was a little nervous.
But yeah, a little nervous.
But that's reverence.
I think that's reverence for God.
Because you feel a commandment coming.
Because it really felt like that.
So he's a teacher for Living Waters,
Ray Comfort's organization.
And he was basically,
his presentation was about how
Don't waste your dash.
He didn't explain so much
today what that dash meant,
but meaning like no jot or
tittle from this book will be forgotten.
It's the dash between the
date you were born and the
date that you died.
Right.
That's your life.
Sorry, that's the dash.
And it is just all of these
things that these six
points of what we should
consider important in life
and why these things are
important for us.
And just about not despising
the small things, putting God first.
A bunch of things.
Let me get the list.
I have it.
I have a friend,
but I just couldn't read it
because my I don't know my glasses.
I just have it outside the door.
That's not.
Yeah.
It's up to you.
I can run and get it real quick.
I continue.
But the point was that he
was inspiring us to say yes to God.
And so he was explaining his
morning ritual as being,
he wakes up and he salutes
God and he says,
I'm here ready for service, Lord.
And it was just, it was just really cool.
His passion came across very,
very cool and,
um and very uh powerfully
and it really motivated you
to want to um be obedient
so that's what that was and
iris says he was at cc ch a
few weeks ago I loved him
he did the dash message too
yes that's what I told andy
as soon as we sat down when
I saw it when he said don't
waste your dash I was like
oh this is the same guy who
was at uh chino and he
mentioned that too that he
was just a chino yeah
So it's not about you.
Surrender control to God.
That was the first thing.
That was my first hurdle, I think.
I think it continues to be your hurdle.
The hurdle's gotten much smaller.
Absolutely.
It used to be about a six-foot hurdle.
Yes.
Now it's turned into a little mohill.
Yeah.
Every so often I'll trip on the hurdle.
But I think that obviously
hit me right away.
Trust that all things work
together for good.
And that was a great talk
that he had about that.
Recognize the fullness of God's presence.
How do you feel God's presence?
What is it that is, I mean,
is it an emotional presence?
Is it you actually feel his
presence physically in your life?
Sometimes.
It depends.
Right?
Doesn't it depend on
Like if you're engrossed in worship,
there is this sense that
the Lord is present in the
corporal worship at the church, right?
Sometimes when I pray over
people in our home church
and I feel the Lord's presence,
I actually also feel it
when I'm overwhelmed with gratitude.
The reason I ask is because for me,
it kind of comes and goes.
Does this God come and go in our midst?
He doesn't come and go.
We come and go in consciousness.
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
Maybe you're right about that hurdle.
For sure.
I'm just wondering if sometimes he goes,
okay,
I think you're good for a couple of
minutes.
I'm going to go.
Let me go over to Lisa.
I'll be back.
Andy,
you seem like you got this under control.
No, no, no.
Really?
You can't because the Holy
spirit's in you.
Hmm.
Sometimes he just kind of goes,
I'm going to see.
So he takes the Holy Spirit out?
No.
Wow.
But mostly I feel his
presence in my consciousness.
Hurdles.
Green's like hurdles.
She likes the hurdles.
I feel him in my consciousness,
in my mind.
And
I try to keep him in my
consciousness all the time.
I want him to be the source
of my consciousness because
that's how you hear from
him more regularly.
I try to catch myself when he's not.
I try to be conscious enough
that I'm being heedless to
remind myself to be conscious of him.
Because I consider when
you're not conscious of him,
you're heedless.
Right.
I know he's far more present
I mean, he's present all the time,
like you're saying.
But I know that I feel his
presence far more often
than I ever have in my
entire life because of the
way I respond to things now.
We hope that that always
increases and increases, right?
The more mature we get,
the closer we get to the Lord.
Because unfortunately, the danger, I think,
of being a seasoned saint
is you lose your saltiness.
Yeah.
Seasoned saint.
Yes.
I was not unconscious of
that little pun of mine.
Kate says,
I remember Jack saying once that
sometimes he plays hide and seek,
but he always sees us.
But faith comes when we
don't have the feelings.
That's very good to remember, too, Kate.
Thank you.
Yeah.
The second one is God knows.
And I'm just going to read
the second bullet that says
reflect on God's design and
purpose in life's events.
And that reminded me of
something that I'm dealing
with right now with one of
my kids that's 13.
And I don't know how much I can share,
but the one thing he's supposed to,
you know how schools work,
districts work.
We have a school very close
by that's changing to a charter school,
and we happen to live in that area.
Well,
he goes to an elementary school where
most of the kids from that
elementary school go to a
different school.
And I,
and I knew in the beginning that
this would be a hurdle between he, uh,
for between me and his mom.
But when I heard this today,
this part that, um,
reflect on God's design and purpose in,
in life's events, I feel,
I feel strongly.
And I, and I, and I'm, and I was like,
kind of awestruck that.
that I think this is one of
those life events that is
God's work for Rhett.
That's how I feel.
And then I started saying,
is it just because that's
what I think is right?
Right.
And I get so confused
because how often do we talk about that?
You know, when we hear a voice,
is it our voice telling us
to buy that new boat or is
it God's voice to tell us?
You know what I mean?
He takes it back to all
things work together good
for those that are called
according to the purpose
and who love God.
Right.
So the fact that he's going
to the school means it was God's purpose.
So it's not just your voice.
It's by design.
I just wish I would have had
this in the day that I told
him about it because I somewhat told him,
I said,
this is going to be fantastic for
you because he loves science.
He loves knowing things that
other people don't know.
And the school is going to
be one of those schools
that is doing something
completely different than
anybody else in the way
that they teach and educate
and what subjects they're
going to be talking.
And it's non-common core and
a whole bunch of other stuff.
And so I did say that.
But when I heard this today, I thought,
wow,
this is one of those events that is
all God and in God's hands.
Amen.
And if it's to be, then it will be.
And so now I'm having this
very heated discussion on one end.
It's heated on one end, not on my end.
Oh, really?
Yes.
I just said, you know,
it's like these long text messages.
But I said, you know,
this is our job is to make
men out of these boys.
and uh to one of the things
that is the argument is
that it's gonna hurt him
mentally and and I'm going
well I i I would have been
the master of that because
I changed schools full time
so yeah yeah but I think
kids can are pretty
Robert Alverson- resilient
and I don't know that it's
a I think that this is one
of those things that kids have to learn.
Robert Alverson- If I'm wrong,
let me know I think one of
the things that the kids have to know,
and this is what I was
telling him in a meeting
that I had with them not too long ago.
Robert Alverson- Is that
these hurdles and these
difficulties and these
transitions are easy now
you think they're hard now,
but they get harder.
As we get older,
so if we don't learn how to
navigate them now,
then it's going to be much
more difficult when you get older.
As an adult,
so I think this is part of the
learning process.
Learning how to get over hurdles.
Yeah, how to transition and deal with, um.
Issues that you're going to
be confronted with, um.
There's something about, um.
likes events that I remember
him saying that's just
can't I wish I would have
wrote it down he was very
engaging it there was so he
was so engaging that I
didn't write notes yeah and
I mean he even said that
he's like you could you
have my little outline he's
like well you could just
close your eyes and listen
yeah try to absorb it in
your spirit lisa says that
is what praying without
ceasing means stay
connected with him in your
consciousness that's good
next one be faithful with
the small things that's all
it says yes faithfulness in
small matters leads to
great responsibility
greater responsibility
greater proportional
meaning you take care of
the little things god will
give you big things yeah
you were faithful with
little god will give you
more then the big ones
share the gospel absolutely
pay forward the gift of
salvation pass on the
message of grace and forgiveness
How critical is that, right?
Just being able to explain
to people what God's
crucifixion actually meant.
Because I think people just
think that it was just this
thing that happened that they, oh,
they really hated him.
They beat him up and they
put him on a cross.
That's the way Ben Shapiro describes it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
He was just some guy who
thought that he was something great,
and they killed him.
Really?
Yeah.
Listen to Ben Shapiro.
He's a real Jew.
He's not yet enlightened.
He's not a Jew for Jesus
type of person at all.
But really, I mean,
so much of the other aspects of Jesus
him uh surrendering because
he knew it had to happen I
think was this something
also wanted to happen he
wanted it he wanted it to
happen yes um it still kind
of stressed him out because
he was sweating blood I
think right exactly it
doesn't mean it was easy
right not not everything is
easy especially when you're
trying to forgive the sins
of the world right but the
fact that he just
Especially when, who was it,
Peter that cut off the soldier's ear?
Yes.
And then he put it back on?
Yes.
He stopped them.
He said, hey, this needs to happen.
That was so powerful.
Because I never thought of that before.
I thought he was like, they, you know,
they got tipped off by a snitch.
That snitch snitched him off with a kiss.
And then they had to track him down.
And there was a little bit of a, I felt,
I think,
in my past that they kind of had
to hunt him down because
they were kind of in hiding.
Yes.
What a horrible thought that I had.
Yeah, Jesus wasn't hiding.
No.
No, no, no.
And he knew,
he knew that they were going
to deny him three times.
Before the rooster crows.
Okay, so the next one, pick up the pace.
Pick up the pace.
This was a good story he told.
Run a life's race with
purpose and perseverance.
Press on toward the prize of eternal life.
And so this, he wasn't, he,
he tried to give life to it
by not using it as a cliche,
like run your race.
But he gave the example of
his son who was in this
like little marathon.
And he said,
he didn't even realize his son
was a runner.
And right before the finish line,
the son starts vomiting uncontrollably.
He was in the lead, right?
He was in the lead and he's
lying on the floor.
And he says, instead of being like, oh,
it's okay.
You ran pretty far.
His dad, he,
this preacher was saying,
I was yelling at him,
you finish this race.
I don't care what you got to do,
but you finish.
And he said he was doing an
army crawl to the finish
line while he's vomiting,
beaten for first place by his sister.
But I just, that's such a great visual,
right?
Because he was like, no,
you have to finish.
You learn to finish.
And I know that's something
I've instilled in Zara
since she was very little.
You have to finish.
Finishing what you start, I think,
is just a great habit.
It's just such an important discipline.
It's an important discipline.
Yeah, absolutely.
I really resonated with, resonated.
Yeah, you for sure resonated with that.
Yeah, I would have said the same thing.
I would have been standing
right next to him yelling
like a drill sergeant.
yep for sure for sure and
then the last one number
six is uh don't waste your
dash embrace self-denial
and follow christ uh value
the eternal over the temporary yeah
Having an eye towards heaven,
remembering this is not our home.
Every day, it's but a vapor.
And every day draws us one
day closer to eternity.
And live each day like, oh, wow,
I got another day, Lord.
What do you want from me?
You know, what can I do?
How can I be of service?
I really, you know...
This is really a transition
for me because I really
struggled with the idea of
dying as a young boy.
I remember crying about the
thought of dying in the bathtub.
And my mom, you know,
it was good thing I was in
the bathtub because I was
crying and I was trying to
not let her see I was crying.
And then she came in and goes,
Are you crying?
What's wrong with you?
I go, I don't want to die.
And but it stuck with me.
And then what kind of job do I get?
I'm a police officer.
Getting shot at.
I got shot at like three times.
But then I just thought I was invincible.
It wasn't that I didn't,
that I no longer feared dying.
It's just I never thought
that I would die.
That's like Zara.
It's not that she's not afraid of dying,
but she just thinks she's invincible.
But finally,
I've just learned to embrace dying.
Like, well, this is going to be great.
Oh, I've always embraced dying.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
I always tell people when
they would tell me they're afraid.
Oh, I have absolutely no fear of death.
I welcome whatever the
Lord's timing may be.
Hmm.
Yeah.
That was interesting to me.
Every day is one day too long.
That Mark says before he goes to bed,
you take me.
Everybody goes to sleep and
then he wakes up the next morning.
Go.
All right, let's do it again.
I'm still here.
What do you want?
For sure.
I'm not quite there.
I mean, there's so much I want to see.
I kind of want to be here
when Jesus returns.
Well, he'll wake us up for that.
All right.
Yeah.
The dead and those that are
asleep will rise first.
I feel like I got a little
bit of work to do, though.
In what?
Oh, I mean, you have kids.
Courtney.
She doesn't know Jesus.
But there's something you
can do about that.
Plant more seeds.
Okay.
Maybe.
I want to see how Rhett and Bo turn out.
Because they're both very...
I've still got this little
mystery about them.
For sure.
I'm just wondering how they turn out.
Yeah,
there's still things... I don't know.
How do you guys feel about dying?
I would be disappointed...
Because I won't see the
outcome necessarily, or will I?
See, Corinne saw that story too,
that Jesus was hiding.
Maybe it's from the same
movie you guys watched.
Betrayed with a kiss, hunted in hiding.
And Corinne says, I'm nowhere near there.
Were we about being
comfortable with death?
I think that's what she means.
Is that what you mean, Corrine?
I love Corrine.
I mean, I love everybody.
I don't want anybody to
think that I don't love them.
I do love them, but I love Corrine.
Well, because you know her personally,
too.
Yes.
Dying.
Yeah, it is.
I hope the Lord comes back soon.
That, too.
But see,
when we close our eyes and fall asleep,
the Lord does come back.
So that's what I'm excited about, that I,
you know,
to be absent from the body is to
be present with the Lord.
So I'm ready.
Yeah.
Well,
that fear of death used to keep me awake.
Yikes.
I mean, it was painful.
I just remember being so
painful because I did not understand,
like, do we just, like, of course,
I wasn't,
aware that you know that I
could go on into eternity
it helps to know that but
it was like just that's it
I go I don't want to be
warm food I don't want to
it wasn't even about going
to hell it was just that it
ended and I could not
understand why does it just
end how is that possible
that it just ends it used
to drive me crazy green's
like I'm not ready and I'm not excited
You know, it's so funny.
I try to be super.
I'm practicing my compassion and sympathy.
But when people say they have sicknesses,
I hate suffering.
I'm really I really
empathize with people that are suffering.
But when I find out that
people have like terminal sicknesses,
I'm secretly like, yo.
you're so lucky you're done.
You're about to be done with this,
you know?
So I'm really not the best
person to come and talk to
you about those kinds of things.
Cause I kind of just try to
convince them that like,
you get to go meet Jesus.
If they're believers,
you get to go meet Jesus.
Like what's the problem.
And even my mom was like, Oh my God,
I thought I was going to die.
And I was like, mom, dying is easy.
It's not the dying part that
you got to worry about.
It's the suffering part you
got to worry about.
That's the hard part.
Staying alive,
like we were talking to a
friend of ours at church and her father,
both her parents are in
hospice for over a year now.
So can't breathe, on ventilators,
in nursing homes,
just literally waiting to die.
I pray almost every day, Lord Jesus,
don't take me like that.
Please just take me.
I want to go out like my dad
in a blaze of glory.
I want to die while having sex.
That's so mean to me.
I don't want to say who this
was because it's somebody
that knows this person.
But I don't want to be,
I know somebody that died
while they were on the toilet.
I don't want to be that.
Yeah, I don't want to be that.
If that's ever been happening.
Please, God.
I would put your clothes on and put you,
lay you back in the bed.
I would not let the morgue
come and take you on the toilet.
wouldn't oh sorry I got
something in my eye um the
um the moment kareem thinks
that's gnarly yeah my
fascination with death I
mean it's so much better
now that I'm not a muslim
that I at least know that
I'm gonna spend an eternity
in heaven phew I didn't die
earlier I would have really
been gnarly you know I
brought up you know me
having covid and being in
the hospital and elvis died
on the toilet yeah he did
very same yeah i
But that's where I realized
that my view of dying switched.
Yes.
That was the moment because I was so okay.
Right.
And the happiness of your
presence and meeting you
and my oldest daughter
taking care of my younger kids.
I go, wow.
This...
This is fantastic.
If I'm going to leave now,
then at least we're able to.
But we hadn't been married yet.
No.
We didn't know each other yet.
But I had the pleasure of
knowing you and knowing
that there was somebody out
there for me because I'd always wondered.
I made these mistakes.
Yes.
You could have thought that
was your last shot.
yeah I said well at least I
know there is somebody out
there that's uh amazing and
that's I'm you know as of
today still loves me even
with covid well I thought
that until the last show
when you said alan
dershowitz is much more
attractive than I am ew
that's what you said that's
what I heard you say I
never said that anyone who
was listening knows I did not say that
Kareem says, wait a second.
You were in the hospital with COVID?
Yes.
He was about to die.
Long story, Kareem.
They were trying to kill me.
They did nothing to keep me
alive in this Kaiser Permanente.
They did not.
They did everything they could.
It's a good thing I was in
pretty decent shape.
Yes.
Because they could have easily killed me.
Despite the cancer.
Lisa, I'm good with dying.
Everyone has an appointed time.
I ask God to go into my future and meet.
Me in that moment and let it
be a good ending that honors him.
Amen.
I don't get this.
I ask God to go into my
future and meet me in that moment.
What does that mean, Lisa?
And let it be a good ending
that honors him.
Amen.
I wouldn't mind going as a martyr.
That sounds fantastic,
but I want to know what it means.
Right?
And I wouldn't mind going as a martyr.
I think that would be kind of cool too.
Really?
Yeah.
To be up with the martyrs in heaven,
you have a special rank.
If that happens,
I'll tell your story because, you know,
you're dying first.
Yeah.
I'm okay with it.
Oh, my gosh.
So what does that mean?
What do you think you'll be doing?
Like it's like Biden's going
to get elected and this
country goes into chaos.
And then I don't even think
it's just Biden.
I think it's inevitable that
this world's going into chaos.
The only thing that's up for debate.
I mean, it's the Bible.
The world goes into chaos.
The only thing that's up to debate is,
will it happen in my lifetime?
And.
Will the rapture take us out
before we suffer too much?
We don't know.
Those two things we don't know.
We don't know when the
rapture is going to happen,
and we don't know when the
chaos descends.
There's a few moments that I
thought for sure were near the end,
that it was just, this is it.
In the world?
Yeah.
But I see too many things
right now happening that
give me an indication that this isn't it.
that there's going to be a
period of time where more
people are going to come to
Christ because we see young
people doing it.
We see even young people
becoming even more patriotic.
That just leads to the Civil War.
Yeah, but we need more people on our side.
I don't want to be... Really?
We've got like 75 million of them.
I don't want to be like the
one where we only go with
10 people into war with
pots and pans and drink water like dogs.
Gideon?
Yeah.
But God always makes the
righteous fight like that.
Every single battle we fought like that.
A lot more people.
Hey, Helen Teo.
Oh, hi from Malaysia.
Malaysia, nice to see you.
Malaysia is a beautiful country.
Nice to hear from you.
Helen,
tell us a little bit more about yourself.
Are you Christian?
Are you seeking God?
Yeah, I spent a lot of time in Malaysia,
in KL, Penang.
uh so at least I said that's
funny I don't know what
she's saying it's funny
that I want to be a martyr
in korean saying I can only
imagine what my dreams are
going to be like tonight oh
no and chances heady
Hey,
I'm ready to meet Jesus tonight if
it's his will.
We have to send our dog to heaven.
He became paralyzed last
Sunday when we were at the ER for Jim.
He's our last dog and has
been my emotional support
for the last 18 months.
We are shattered.
I know Andy understands our
pain all too well.
When you have that dog.
I'm sorry.
They cross the rainbow
bridge is what they call it.
Aww.
I'm sorry, Jan.
Helen was Catholic and now Christian.
Me too.
Oh, Helen's saying that.
I was raised Catholic.
Then I became agnostic, essentially,
and a whole bunch of other things.
Then I became a Christian in name only,
and then I became Christian.
So Helen was far more direct than I was.
Maybe, or maybe she's short in the story.
Celestina Brown, what's happening?
I think with Israel, we are close.
A couple years close.
Could be.
I mean,
it looks like Ezekiel 38 war happening.
I mean,
the rise of anti-Semitism is scary.
I've got to say,
that's super scary because... So...
When we would do wargaming
in the counterterrorism world in D.C.,
my prediction was the
dangerous threat to U.S.
national security was the Civil War.
So I have slides talking
about that way before this
stuff with the FBI,
way before January 6th.
It was basically the tension
that arose from Trump winning office.
So I wrote about it in 2016, 2017.
But this added dimension of
antisemitism fractures the Christians
I don't know, in half.
I don't know if it's half.
I don't know if it's 70-30.
I don't know if it's 60-40.
But it creates yet another division.
So it's not just hard left, hard right.
Now, even in the right,
we're going to have hard, hard right,
and then we're going to have right.
So it creates yet another
faction in the Civil War.
So I think, to me,
that's extremely worrisome.
Well,
the Jews have already set that example.
Because you have Jews that
are for Palestinian.
Right.
Palestine, sorry.
And then you got the Jews
that were attacked and are
fighting for their life.
Right.
I mean, you got Schumer.
What a kook.
Like, are you confused?
Do you look at a mirror?
You're a Jew and you're American,
and yet you're supporting...
the terrorists, essentially,
and going against Israel.
Carrie said she heard it is
right at 50-50 between the
replacement theology folks and us.
Wow.
That's frightening.
So sad.
And Lisa says, oh,
her expression that she
said earlier meant for God
to be there with her as she's dying.
Oh, hi, Carrie.
I forgot Carrie just got on.
I noticed it from the pink wave.
Yeah.
And Celestina's from Texas.
Hello, Celestina.
And assuming by her
statement earlier that
she's clearly a Christian,
long-time Christian, short-time Christian,
all your life?
And I feel like you must be a listener,
Pastor Jack, too.
Yeah.
Just based on our end times perspective.
She's a fellow Chino Hills watcher.
Maybe I should put Pastor
Jack in more of our thumbnails.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe that's what worked out.
Yeah.
Isn't that fun?
That's the first time I've
used them in a graphic.
Yeah.
But it was a perfect name.
Great Preachers is the name
of the devotional.
Carrie says she doesn't get
a notification from YouTube anymore.
Well,
apparently we have violent and
dangerous content.
Yeah.
So maybe that's what's happening.
Yeah, because somebody earlier was saying,
I think it was Corrine
saying that we need a... Amber alert.
Amber alert when we go live.
ideally when you hit the
subscribe button and the
bell um that is supposed to
be the amber alert that
should alert you to us
going live but hey cindy
hauser's on but I've got a
bunch of hi cindy I've got
a bunch of podcasts I asked
for alerts for all um on
youtube I don't get any oh
yeah how do you get them I
don't know like when
driscoll comes on do you
get a announcement
For Wednesday when he's online?
No.
Never.
Yeah.
If it's Christian, there's no alert.
I get Facebook notifications
when Jack goes live.
10 years.
Yes, I am.
Awesome.
It's so funny how we recognize each other.
We have the same eschatology.
All right, one more time,
I'm going to alert you guys
to the fact that you need
to leave a prayer request if you have one,
because we'll be praying in
just a few minutes.
So if you have any prayer
requests for yourself, family member,
friend.
Kelly gets a notification, she said.
Yeah, that's weird.
I think Mr.
Oh, shoot.
Mr. Block.
Who are we talking about?
He's a teacher at El Dorado.
His daughter was murdered on Thursday.
Oh, so horrible.
Right here in Tustin.
Last name, family's name is Block.
Block.
I was looking for my phone
to make sure that that's his last name,
but God knows his last name.
Yes.
But yeah, horrible.
I guess there's a little bit
more to the story.
We don't know the total details,
but the family has to be devastated,
of course.
Absolutely.
As I can imagine.
It looks like she was in her late teens,
early 20s by the picture I saw.
No parent should have to bury their child.
Right.
Corrine would know.
Corrine, is it Mr. Block?
I'm pretty sure I have that name.
I should know because my son
had him for a teacher.
Yeah, some people do, some people don't.
I don't quite understand it.
But you hit the bell on YouTube.
But you have to push all, not just some.
So the bell has options of doing none,
some, and all.
But I do all for Pastor Jack and for Mark,
but I don't get them all.
I got a praise report.
Let's hear it.
So today...
We barbecued some steaks.
Barbecued.
You made some amazing mushrooms.
Yeah.
That went along with the ribeye steak.
Thank you.
God's blessings over our family.
Have been beyond measure, but we can,
you know, even.
Yes, even deserve for the 3 of us.
My kids are with their mom
during this period during this weekend.
We share weekends or share.
We split the weekends and so
it's just you and me and Zara.
Yes.
And it was a very nice dinner.
Oh,
it's just it's just I just thought how
nice and the discussions
were in the Bible.
We read the Bible.
We read her Judges 19.
Figured if she thought the
Bible was boring,
it was a great entree to the Bible.
Shopping the congee right up in there.
I mean, it's the Bible.
What a story.
But I just I just God is so great.
I just kind of left, you know,
that that dinner time together.
oh as we the three of us put
stuff away together and um
then we came up to make
sure that you know getting
some other things prepared
for the show and I went
back into judges 19 to read
that that I just I just sat
for a second and go oh my
gosh that's the best ever
god is amazing thank you
yeah the prayers this
prayer prayer is key key to everything
I was reading in Deuteronomy
when your Bible,
I can't remember the exact scripture,
but it's in Deuteronomy
where the Lord says,
does he not answer the
prayers of those who pray incessantly?
And it's so touched my heart
because that's literally
like what you do is that
you just knock and knock
and knock and pray and pray and pray.
And, and God answers.
Yeah.
You know, it's just he doesn't.
Well, actually, maybe it was Luke.
It wasn't to do over on me
because he was using the example.
It was in a parable.
I'll look it up and read it
for you guys tomorrow
because it was talking about.
He says that if.
Oh, it was the parable.
It was a parable of the
judge where the lady kept
asking him to give her a
verdict on her case.
And he kept delaying her and
delaying her and delaying her.
And he says, oh,
let me just give her an
answer because she will
continue to harass me.
And the Lord responds with, will I not,
if the judge would do that,
if a regular man would do that,
will I not answer those who
pray to me incessantly?
And I was like, oh, that's so good.
That wouldn't God,
if you just pray without ceasing,
will God not answer your prayers?
And whether we see it in
this life or the next,
he answers every single one.
Absolutely.
Saw that.
That's my praise report.
That's a praise report.
I love it.
And Carrie, yes.
Oh, and Lisa says.
Schumer is a devil.
Pretty much.
And Carrie says, yes, it's a parable.
Oh, my.
Oh, did I say, oh, my God?
No.
No?
I don't think.
No.
Oh,
I think that that's in reference to us
reading Judges 19.
Oh, okay.
It was because Zara took her
ribeye and cut all the fat off,
and there were like 12
pieces on her plate.
Yes.
So that's kind of like, oh.
And then after we read it, she was like,
but there must be a context.
She's like,
what's the context of the scripture?
I was like, that's a very clever response.
Yeah.
And yes, as I read Enduring Word,
and they just made
reference to the fact that
it was just like Sodom and Gomorrah.
This was, here we are again.
Here we are again,
after all I've done for you.
Because the Bible always... Yeah.
And it was just not, I mean,
that was pretty much the
simple explanation of the story.
There was somebody,
I guess the translator for,
and I got to read it again, but...
He says the person that was
one of the main guys
translating that particular book,
he just said, he goes, I can't do this.
This is too horrific for me.
I don't even want to translate this.
It is so bad.
And the interesting thing is
that they just threw both women out,
like took the virgin
daughter and the concubine.
Who do we got lying around here?
I'm not sure about the virgin daughter.
He offered her,
but it looks to me now that
I've read it in like three
different versions,
that they just threw out the concubine.
Because I was wondering what
happened to the... He offered,
and that wasn't appeasing to them,
so he just threw out the concubine.
And it was the concubine's
husband is the one who threw her out.
door now I thought it was
the man yeah it's a wild
story folks if you didn't
catch our broadcast
yesterday check out judges
19 who says the bible's not
interesting and full of
really wild details of
humanity it's like the
dexter verse of the book
yes I wonder why paul quit
after three times
Okay,
we're gonna have to wait for her answer.
And I'm going to pray.
All right.
I'm gonna pray for Jan and
her family to suffering the
loss of their doggy.
And Lisa, Lisa, our friend, Lisa.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, Lord,
we want to lift up a number of
people to you.
We're so grateful to have
this opportunity to stand
in the gap for our loved
ones and our friends here
on this podcast and those
that may not even be
listening to us right now, Lord, but
You know all their difficulties.
We pray for our friend Lisa,
who's just been diagnosed
with Epstein-Barr, Lord.
We ask for restoration and
healing for her as quickly
as possible so that she
feels well again to take
care of her family and all
the other things that
She loves to do Lord.
And we ask for peace and
grace over Jan and Jim.
They've had so much strife, Lord,
and so much difficulty.
And now the loss of their of
their furry friend.
We ask that you give their
hearts love and peace
during this time of
transition as their home
loses a family member.
And we play for Mr. Block
and his family for the loss
of their daughter,
the very tragic and
difficult circumstance of losing a child.
Lord, their hearts are broken.
We ask that you mend them.
You draw them closer to you.
If they do not yet know you, Lord,
may this be an opportunity
for them to draw strength
from the Lord Jesus Christ,
for he heals all wounds.
We want to ask for healing
for Carrie and for Kate and
their sicknesses, Lord, and Eddie,
Carrie's husband, Lord,
and our new friend
Celestina and her stepkid's
mom who's suffering from cancer, Lord,
to give her peace and restoration.
And all of our other loved
ones that are suffering, Lord,
we lift them up to you and
ask for your healing hand.
You are Jehovah Rapha.
We ask for faith, for saving faith, Lord,
for our loved ones who do
not yet know you.
And we're so grateful to be
amongst the family of believers.
It's in the mighty name of
Jesus that we ask all
things in the mighty name
of Jesus that we praise you, Lord.
Amen.
Mark is talking about Samson right now.
Oh, is he still in Samson?
I thought we finished Samson.
No, he was good.
It was good.
Yeah.
Celestina just read that last night.
She must be in the same
one-year Bible as you.
Are you in Jack's one-year Bible?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I'm in a different one.
So, yes, she read that, too.
Yeah, Celestina, I read that,
and I thought about it all day long.
Like, why is this in the Bible?
Like, we've already had enough.
Did you read Samson?
i did you said that's a
pretty gruesome story too
yeah pretty stupid why did
he keep telling her she
kept every night the men
came into the house to try
to arrest him why did he
keep telling her dopey
dopey big dope and yet he
was a judge like look at
what god had to pick from
How bad?
How bad that it was God's pickings?
Sounds like the Democratic Party.
Really?
These people are the best
that you have to offer?
Exactly.
Come on.
You've got to be kidding me.
Exactly.
Well,
it's not looking as great on our side
either, to tell you the truth.
We have a few fantastic people.
We have fantastic people,
but they're not in
positions where they're
going to rule the country.
Yeah, Samson just...
In the end, when he was blind,
he just finally said, hey,
you got a little smart.
Put my hands on these pillars.
He became a terrorist.
But he was a suicide bomber.
Yeah, but he was on God's side.
It's okay.
That's what the holy warriors say.
All right, my friends.
We love you guys.
God bless.
We love being here with you.
Take care.
Thank you for joining us.
Good night.