You made me forget to put the camera up,
so you're blowing me away
with this kind of stuff.
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Like when was the last time
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that in just a little bit.
But for now, we are reading from A.W.
Tozer for the Christian
leader for March 25th.
The title is Read or Get Out
of the Ministry.
I like it.
Get out.
Out.
A.W.
references Proverbs 1, 5 and says,
A wise man will hear and
will increase learning.
and a man of understanding
shall attain unto wise counsels.
A.W.
says, When a very young minister,
I asked the famous holiness preacher,
Joseph H. Smith,
whether he would recommend
that I read widely in the secular field.
Wait one second.
Joseph Smith, is he this third?
no I i don't think he's an h
I think it is joseph smith
but it's a different joseph
I believe so anybody
phoning a friend see I told
you uh make sure and let us
know if that is correct
because why would he be why
would he be talking to that
smith that's what I'm hoping there were
I don't think they're around
at the same time.
I think the Mormon Smith was
100 years before that.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, or so.
Anybody know?
Let us know.
He replied, young man,
a bee can find nectar in
the weed as well as in the flower.
But is there really a bee?
Weeds have flowers.
Yeah.
Yeah, dandelion.
I took his advice, or to be frank,
I sought confirmation of my
own instincts rather than advice,
and I'm not sorry that I did.
John Wesley told the young
ministers of the Wesleyan
societies to read or get
out of the ministry,
and he himself read science
and history with a book
propped against the saddle
pommel as he rode from one
engagement to another.
Andy Dolbo
the American Indian preacher
of considerable note,
was a man of little education,
but I once heard him exhort
his hearers to improve
their minds for the honor of God.
When you are chopping wood, he explained,
and you have a dull ax,
you must work all the
harder to cut the log.
A sharp ax will ease work.
We'll make, sorry,
a sharp ax makes easy work.
So sharpen your ax all you can.
Do you have a dull axe?
No.
Very sharp.
It's kind of like cutting a tomato, right?
There's so much stuff in this head.
Sometimes I forget the little things.
My next point.
Go ahead.
When this is written,
we don't have the internet
for our phones.
Right.
So I don't think Tozer had
any idea how much
information we'd have
access to because I think there's limits.
No,
they tell us that we only use a small
portion of our brain.
No,
I think there's limits to how much
secular information we
should be processing in our
brains because I don't mean
science and history books.
I'm talking news and other kinds of
Superfluous stuff, mindless stuff,
uneducational stuff.
He specifically referred to
educational stuff,
but just entering data into
our heads is not a good thing.
Random data.
And it could be false data.
I disagree.
Do you want to read the prayer?
In the busyness of life, Lord,
help me to always guard
time to sharpen my axe.
Amen.
You wanted to just dive right in.
I did.
Continue.
So I just think that I think
we can cloud our heads with
too much junk.
I think in the ministry, again,
this devotional is about ministers mostly,
but it reaches many of us
who become disciples in many ways.
We're like mini ministers as a disciple.
I'm not sure if that's a
great way to put it.
A mini minister?
Yeah.
not standing at a pulpit and
speaking to a bunch of
people sometimes we're
speaking to somebody at
starbucks yeah or we're all
ministers lacrosse game um
but I feel like having some
of this nonsense knowledge
which I think is a good way
to put it is is gives
us the ability to respond to
nonsense that people will
be speaking and distracted
by and say you know the the
stuff on tick tock you're
watching the the the
lipstick videos and the
hairdo videos and uh the
the things that make you
feel like you're not as
good as that person right
um you know that's uh
that's something you need
to go that's like that's
from the devil do you feel
like you have to watch the
lipstick videos to make comment
i don't think I need to
watch them but I need to
know I need to know that's
what it is that they're
seeing I don't need to see
a hundred of them I can see
two and see that they're
getting like a million
views right okay listen
there's a lot but you're
not filling your head with
lipstick videos right yeah
but the knowledge of them
that they exist sure
But you don't think there's
a point at which we
overload our tiny little
pea brains with worthless information?
No.
I don't think so.
What you can do, though,
is waste a lot of time.
So you don't need to spend a
lot of time in it.
Good point, good point.
You just need to know that it exists.
Lord, I would like to redeem the time.
Does this include,
because I read a book about
the history of the Mormon faith,
and I think I read another book about...
Scientology.
Actually, it was the Scientology book,
the one that he wrote, the Dianetics.
Is there anything wrong with doing that?
Because they're talking
about secular stuff, right?
This is information about
another religion.
Because I just wanted to know.
I don't know what the
official opinion about that is.
What do you guys think?
Is it okay to read even the
Book of Mormon?
I mean,
I think when it's for the purpose
of witnessing to Mormons or
understanding so that you can witness,
I don't see what the harm is.
I mean,
I know in apologetics they read the
Quran and they read Hadith,
which are the sayings of
the Prophet Muhammad,
in order to have a response to them.
So I don't see why any other
faith would be any different.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I don't do a Ouija board,
and I did that when I was a kid.
Yeah, so that's doing something,
or I don't... You're not
supposed to do yoga because
you're not supposed to
worship false gods.
But maybe to read... From an
educational standpoint as
opposed to a worship standpoint?
Yes.
I don't think it should be a problem.
But I don't know if there's
an official ministerial rule about that.
I'd want to know.
Maybe in our next interview
with Pastor Jack, I'll ask him that too.
That's a good question.
That'd be a good question.
What are some of our followers saying?
Hi, Cindy.
She's driving but listening.
Now she's driving and listening.
And then Kelly.
Hello.
But Cindy's typing.
So I hope she's voice typing.
Agreed.
We need to know what other
people are identifying as
their truth so we can
respond to their nonsense.
But we need to know what God
has to say more and spend
more time with God.
Amen.
Good stuff in, good stuff out.
Too much garbage in,
garbage starts to come out.
That's so profound, Cindy.
I bet you your grandmother said that,
Cindy.
I love that.
Oh, she's parked now.
Okay.
She wants everybody to know.
Safely.
I think that's a good point.
That's my theory.
Too much garbage in,
garbage starts to come out.
Well, I mean, for sure,
the one thing that I know now,
because I just started doing it,
uh and that is the thing
I've been I've been trying
to do for some 55 years
that sounds like a long
time when I when you say it
out loud right and that is
to read the bible and so do
you want to tell our
friends what happened today
just a second ago yes we'll
talk about that so if
you're not reading the
bible but you're only
reading other things clearly that is not
Clearly that it's wrong, right?
Yeah, and that's what I used to do.
I read the Book of Mormon.
I read – Self-help books, Tony Robbins.
Yeah, Dianetics, Tony Robbins,
all that kind of stuff,
but didn't read the real –
But the Bible got dusty.
The real help book, the God help book.
But because you need to hear
the truth so that you can
discern the lies and the false doctrines.
So as our friends know,
Andy has started the
one-year Bible for the first year.
Very excited,
waking up every day very early.
He was a little behind
because he was on a trip
and he didn't have his
paper book with him.
And then something
interesting happened today
when Andy woke up.
So I was four chapters,
I was like four days behind.
Four days behind.
But today, he also woke up at 4.30.
And what are you doing?
Well, I woke up at 4.30.
Well, actually, last night,
I realized that I had a
meeting scheduled for 8.
Now, normally,
my workout at the gym would be at 8.
So from 5 o'clock to about 7.30,
I read the one-year Bible.
Yes.
But because I had a meeting at 8,
I needed to figure out how it was.
I didn't want to end up
being at the gym until 2 in
the afternoon.
So I said, I know I'll pull a switcheroo.
I woke up at 4.30.
I went to the gym.
Well, I got coffee.
Then I went to the gym.
Yes.
And then I went to my meeting at 8.
Yes.
And then I read the one-year Bible.
I don't see how that,
do you really think that's a problem?
I promise you, before you know it,
the habit will break.
Really?
Oh, my God.
The devil creeps up just like that.
Just like that.
Wow.
I've seen it happen a thousand times.
So what you're saying, I just should have.
You absolutely,
unless you don't have your book.
I have my book.
Or you're sick and you can't wake up.
Do not change the time.
You don't.
You cannot change the time.
Because once the devil knows, oh, okay,
I see now.
I just got to rearrange some
things and I could totally distract him.
But...
The devil could have got me
when I went on that long,
where we went to Detroit.
I went to Detroit and then I
met you up in Nashville.
I didn't have my book.
You could have,
but you fought it and you won.
So he tried a new tactic.
I fought the law and the law won.
Yeah.
Yeah, so he tried a new tactic.
He made this cool.
Oh, look at you.
He made this cool new class and said, Andy,
you're up early.
I made this really cool
class for you at six.
it's perfect so maybe I just
have to wake up at three
yeah exactly well that's
you gotta tell the devil
say oh you won't give me a
cost at six I want to wake
up at three yeah so there
so there I actually could
have done that today too
yep because I was up at
three yeah I rolled around
the bed until 4 30 and then
got up um I mean rolled in
the bed by myself just so they
I wish all the other ladies
were on so they could comment.
We're going to have this
discussion again tomorrow.
We're missing all of our
peeps so that they can comment.
If you're hearing this afterwards,
please put your comments
and tell me whether you agree.
Well, you got me just now.
It was a different tactic.
He thought he was going to
get me with being on vacation,
but I was firm.
I said, no, I'm going to catch up.
Right.
Because it's a time I go to
the East Coast and it's a time change.
And I mean,
it's I know that sounds like a
lot of the devil talking right there,
but it just wasn't it
wasn't in the cards.
No, you didn't have the book.
And I didn't have the book.
So you didn't have a digital copy.
We need to get you the Kindle copy.
I do.
I need to get that.
Yeah.
You don't have to read all
the time on the Kindle,
but you need the emergency Kindle copy.
See, where were you when I needed you?
I'm always here.
So yeah, please,
if you're watching on the replay,
give us your comments on
whether you agree that in
order to break a biblical
God-centered habit,
the devil tries to distract us.
And if he can distract us,
he could take us off our game.
Yeah,
I'm really interested to know what
you think about reading other books.
And other really topic of
the devotional reading other religions.
And in general,
just secular knowledge I
totally believe in the
acquisition of knowledge.
I love it.
I think it's really important.
But my commentary was that I
worry sometimes too much in
this day and age.
Our access to information is
so abundant that you end up
with too much information.
So I was listening to Dan
Bongino this morning.
You were able to listen?
I was.
Well, you know what?
Honestly, I don't know how much it was.
Mine stopped at 11 minutes.
Yeah.
So I think that's all I
heard was 11 minutes.
When he was talking about Moscow,
the shooting,
and like his five different
perspectives on who it was.
Oh, I didn't get that far.
It froze at 11 on me.
See, I only saw about 11 minutes,
but I don't know if it was
a different 11 minutes than yours.
But in mine,
he was giving us like five
different theories on who
committed the shooting.
And I was thinking to myself,
if I was listening to it, I was like,
do I really need to know this?
Like,
am I filling my brain right now with
too many what ifs about something that is
so unimportant I say yes
because you um are very
involved and you are
considered um the the islam
person the christian who
formerly and islamic
terrorism so that's why I
was curious to hear what
are people saying about
moscow um we got some
really good information on
that too when about syria
no you did last night
Well, because, yeah,
so he didn't believe that
it was ISIS because he said
it was too convenient.
He says Blinken warned
Russia because he did it
publicly ahead of time.
So we knew of the attack.
The Estonia Secret Service
knew of an attack against them.
But that all could have been
chatter on ISIS on the dark web.
Yeah.
So that and then Paris
raised its threat level as
a result of that attack.
But then he was saying it
could have been Putin doing
it to himself.
And I don't see that.
Yeah, I don't see that either.
I don't.
He's pretty out there,
but I don't think he can do that.
And not like that, opening fire like that?
No.
And I don't think that's the
Ukrainians either.
That kind of brutality takes
a very crazy deprivation.
So we'll see.
I don't know.
I mean,
could it be a faction of the
Ukrainians that have just
they've just had it?
They've just they're broken.
What does that do for them?
It just inspires the Russians to do more.
If they find out it's Ukraine-backed,
it's just going to, you know.
That was Dan's point,
that it would allow Putin
the excuse to go nuclear if
he could link it to the Ukrainians.
Yeah.
But I was thinking, I mean,
all of us as
counterterrorism experts are
just waiting for the other
shoe to drop for ISIS or
some other major terrorist
organizations to hit the United States.
But Russia?
Yeah, that was odd.
That was odd.
So the only thing,
as I told you last night,
what I told Andy,
what occurred to me was
that it was their support
of Bashar Assad.
They basically are the
reason he's still standing, is Russia.
Well,
I think at least the followers of
ISIS in that area still
hold the grudge for their
battle in Afghanistan back in the 80s.
Who?
Russia was fighting the Afghanis.
Right.
And that's when we were
helping Osama bin Laden with weapons.
So they don't like Russia either.
They don't like Iran.
They don't like... I mean,
their hatred for them, I'm sure,
is still... Because they never forget.
But we're mixing terrorist groups here.
Al-Qaeda is different than ISIS.
Okay.
So,
and the reason... It seems like a
distinction without a difference,
but it's important.
ISIS is mostly comprised of
former Ba'athists.
people that were military
figures under Saddam Hussein.
So remember, when we ousted Saddam Hussein,
the Sunnis lost control.
So the Shiites took over.
So Iraqi overnight became a Shiite state.
So ISIS is a hodgepodge of
former Ba'athist Sunnis,
and then the ragtag
you know jihadis from around
the world um al-qaeda
mission focus was on
getting the infidel out of
arab lands isis is trying
to form a territory
al-qaeda and isis so isis
believes in emmanuel
basically recreating the
caliphate the the islamic
state al-qaeda doesn't
al-qaeda theologically
doesn't believe you could
do that by human means the
savior has to come back to do that
So their political
motivations would be different.
Gotcha.
So ISIS's number one enemy
to creating their Islamic
State and maintaining it is
the president of Syria,
who is unilaterally
supported in the world by Russia.
Got it.
Better connection.
Janet Callahan- That was a
lot James question,
are you all taking
questions we absolutely are
taking questions on X yes
looks like a Sasquatch or I
thought was a man in a bite
suit dog training bite suit,
but you might be right
looks like the rear side of Sasquatch.
What is your graphic, James?
Yeah, what are your questions, James?
And your question.
And Kelly thinks it's way
too much information overload.
I need to take a break sometimes.
Yeah,
I don't know if that's also a woman thing,
Kelly.
Because we seem to get a lot
more frustrated quickly than men do.
But she always says that break sometimes.
I think everybody needs a
break from... Sometimes.
Yeah, sometimes.
But we go right back to it.
Well, to tell you the truth,
I'm having a hard time
deciding who I believe.
Really?
I'm getting, like, Pastor Jack,
where I'm like,
I don't even know whose
news source I should believe anymore.
I love that list he gave
yesterday of all the news sources.
Oh, did he give a list yesterday?
I saw a whole bunch of lists
of all kinds of things yesterday,
but I didn't see a news source.
I don't think he did that in
Second Service.
Did you take a screenshot?
It's on his website.
He said he gave... Okay.
I believe so.
Because...
yeah I mean just even
watching the conservatives
implode they if he could
they he would deceive even
the elect um the end times
just the the chaos of
uncertainty right now um I
mean all this stuff with
candace owens totally
freaking me out too and I
don't understand what's happening the um
the fractioning of the
conservative movement is a
little bit bizarre.
And it goes to Pastor Jack's
point at the epicenter, Israel,
because even the United
States will turn its back on Israel.
So watching, okay, I'm gonna try to,
I'm gonna go on a rabbit trail here,
but I think it's important
because a lot of our
viewers are Pastor Jack students.
And so I think they'll get this.
We are staunch supporters of Israel,
hands down.
We support Israel, hands down.
God says,
I will bless those who bless you.
I will curse those who curse you because.
We being Christians or we
being the United States of America?
Followers of Pastor Jack.
Students.
Students of Pastor Jack.
Disciples that go to Calvary Chapel,
Chino Hills.
our teacher has instilled
that value by teaching us
the Old Testament through the New.
So it's not we blindly follow anybody.
He has,
based on the way he has explained
and articulated the concepts of the Bible,
which we can read for ourselves,
God has never disowned his
promises to Israel, nor shall he ever.
And if he were to,
then the promises to us are invalid too.
So
He will always support,
God will always support and
defend Israel.
But you can see suddenly
what they're describing as
a Christian nationalist movement,
which is not what Pastor Jack is at all,
but what he's being accused of.
This nationalist movement is
somewhat of isolationist.
I've heard it even in Steve Bannon.
Like, why do we have to support Israel?
Who cares?
It's Catholic.
Catholics don't care about Israel.
um so we have to realize
that we have to listen to
all of these factions now
that are happening in the
conservative movement and
be like whoa wait a minute
that is against the bible
we we follow bible first not party first
We're citizens of heaven.
And so when they start to deviate,
some in the MAGA movement
are isolationists.
And if you're an isolationist,
that means you move away
from global politics to
focus on hyper nationalism.
The danger of hyper
nationalism is you abandon Israel.
And as Pastor Jack was
explaining yesterday,
we're seeing this happen in
real time because even
people in the United States
are turning their back on Israel.
The last passion of hope for
American support for Israel
is the conservative movements.
If the conservatives stop
supporting Israel, it's done.
Sorry, that was long-winded.
No, that's right.
But you've got Jews, you know,
that are for a two-state
solution to... Absolutely,
because they're looking at
a secular lens.
They're thinking, I mean,
this is something I dealt
with in 20-plus years of
government service.
The entire State Department are atheists.
So they want diplomatic
solutions to problems.
You can't have a diplomatic
solution to problems if
people are not playing by
the same rules you are.
They have a theology that guides them,
not an ideology,
not a political ideology.
They have a theology that guides them.
So your diplomatic solutions,
the Muslim ideology is they
will inherit the entire earth.
until the savior comes and
rules with jesus so they
believe in a rule of a
jesus so they won't they
won't stop at anything less
short of that um and so we
also will stop we must not
stop short of anything but
um supporting israel until
the king returns
And you have firsthand
knowledge of this because
of what you had to deal with Osama bin,
no, Osama bin Laden.
Sorry.
Obama.
When he told you in a meeting.
Well, and that was just him personally,
but I had to deal with it for decades,
working with State
Department officials in
every country at all levels.
It wasn't just Obama.
He was, you know, he's just one executive.
But the entire machinery,
what we all now call the deep state,
the entire machinery of our
diplomacy is built on atheism.
Something that people like
Pompeo tried to change,
but it's not changeable.
Wow.
Kelly,
I have to say there's a comment on
Candace.
Kenneth Owen says,
those who support Israel
don't know their real history.
I don't completely
understand what people mean
by the real history.
They want to rewrite history.
Yeah.
It's a little confusing.
Yeah.
I mean, I can't tell you,
there is nothing more crazy
than what's going on on
Candace's own right now.
And I told Andy, he's like,
what are you listening to?
Cause I started to listen.
I'm going back and listening
to each of her podcasts in this past week,
because I can't listen to
commentary about what she said anymore.
I need to hear it from her
because it just does not
make any sense what they're
saying she said.
Um, and so, uh,
What Christians I trust are
saying about what she's
saying is that she doesn't
know the Bible.
She doesn't understand the Bible.
So the things she's saying
about Israel is because she
doesn't understand the Bible.
So if she's talking about history,
she's talking about a
political history that she
thinks she understands,
but she doesn't understand God's history.
She needs to listen to the
last two or three sermons
from Pastor Jack.
She does.
I literally was going to
text Pastor Jack last night and be like,
can you get a meeting with her?
Because she's turned around.
Just get ahold of Charlie Kirk.
Yeah.
Because they're, you know,
they're really good friends.
I'm like, can you please ask for me?
Who was like, you really need it.
Cause remember the last time
I asked him about her,
he was not aware of the conflict.
Like he's not engaged.
He's not interested,
but I'm thinking by this point,
somebody must've been like,
can you please look at this?
Because I don't understand
how she gets straightened
out unless somebody of
substance explains it to her.
right let's read the
scripture real quick
proverbs to know wisdom and
instruction to perceive the
words of understanding to
receive the instruction of
wisdom justice judgment and
equity to give prudence to
the simple I love that give
prudence to the simple
to the young man knowledge
and discretion a wise man
will hear and increase
learning and a man of
understanding will attain
wise counsel to understand
a proverb and an enigma the
words of the wise and their
riddles the fear of the
lord is the beginning of
knowledge but fools despise
wisdom and instruction
I'd like to cut and paste
and have Jackson that to Candace,
because seriously, that's,
that's the humbleness and
the openheartedness and the
discernment of a believer right there,
you know, being open to hearing,
maybe I don't get this.
I think a long form, um,
discussion between the two
of them yes would be great
to hear on a podcast well
she should bring them on
the show yeah kind of like
what your interview your
very first interview you
know the very first podcast
that he did with you yeah
that back and forth and
candace does those tucker
had candace on and candace
has her own podcast where
she brings people and does
long-form discussion on
And it's important.
Why?
Why do you think it's
important that we do that with Candace?
Oh, my God.
She's a huge voice for young
conservatives.
And she's got half a million followers.
And she's a believer.
And she professes a believer.
I mean, she's posting scripture.
Her response to Ben Shapiro
about failing to support
Israel was Bible verses.
You know what I mean?
So she's yielding the sword of the spirit.
and chopping people's heads off with it.
You know what I mean?
Like, you're like, whoa, wait,
you know what I mean?
Like,
it's like somebody with a loaded gun
pointing in the wrong direction.
Okay.
Timeout.
You know what I mean?
My kids do the same thing to
me on occasion.
Right.
We'll take a verse and I'll go, Hmm,
that's not really out of context.
Yeah.
So dangerous.
Yeah.
Extremists do that.
Yeah.
They like to do that.
I have people on my post that, that,
that Mark guy,
he will put on something and I'll go.
Yeah.
you're absolutely the left
does it all the time you're
right it's like somebody
grabbing a gun that doesn't
know how to use it yes it's
waving it around oh my god
stop that is this the
safety you know and
especially around young
people because um let's
face it see we got to
realize there is a demonic um
there's a demonic spirit
that wants to turn
everyone's heart against Israel.
As Pastor Jack was explaining this weekend,
Satan thinks if he can destroy Israel,
Jesus has no place to come back to.
Because the book says he
comes back to Jerusalem,
so he's thinking if I destroy it,
he has no place to come back to,
the prophecy is foiled.
Which is the same reason why
we don't believe that's possible.
So there is a spirit,
a very strong spirit of
delusion to pull people
away from Jews and Israel.
And so if she is being
utilized in that way,
then you want to try to correct it.
And you believe and hope and
pray she's correctable.
James, we are taking questions.
Yes, we are taking questions.
We told you.
Please.
Fire away.
I thought I would answer.
Maybe he didn't hear you.
You tell them that.
Kelly says.
She had Pastor Jack on her
PragerU show a few years ago,
so they have met.
PragerU for sure.
Okay.
I am going to reach out to a
couple of those channels
and see if I could.
Set up again.
Yeah.
Maybe she needs a refresher.
She needs a refresher.
James says.
God walked away from the Jewish people.
Jewish people walked away from God.
Yes.
God never walks away from his people.
I mean, think about it.
You can't worship a God that
breaks his promises.
So...
Our Bible,
if you're a believer in Christianity,
maybe you're not,
is the Old Testament and
the New Testament.
You can't understand the New
Testament without reading
the Old Testament.
God doesn't create a whole new set of,
I know there's people that believe that,
create a whole new set of promises.
No,
his promises are continual and eternal.
That's how you can depend on them.
Because if he broke his
covenant to the Jews and to Israel,
then he's going to break
his covenant to me.
then how can I have surety
of my salvation with a God
who changes his mind?
So my God doesn't change his mind.
The God of the Bible doesn't
change his mind.
We have a few minutes left.
He asked me how I was saved.
Yeah,
I think that would be the best one to
end on.
So James asks,
Um, how were you saved?
I was saved by meeting Jesus
Christ on the internet.
So I didn't stay there,
but that's how I was saved.
Uh,
I watched a YouTube video of a pastor
and that got me ultimately connected, um,
with the Bible,
with the Lord until I went
and got baptized and attended a Bible, um,
preaching and teaching
church under Pastor Jack,
Pastor Jack Gibbs,
who we've been talking about.
Awesome.
Last book of the Bible is
the book of Revelation.
And it says that only the
chosen one will know when
the world will die.
My understanding is the world doesn't die.
It's reborn.
But that's a lot of conversation.
It does get a gigantic flame to it.
It gets a facelift.
It gets put in the kindling
oven and gets redone.
um somebody trained him for
15 years yeah who who
trained you for 15 years
but thank you for your
questions yes come back
again yes unfortunately
we're hitting the towards
the end of our the show but
um why are we going off so
it's still 36 minutes well
we have the prayer requests
yeah yeah okay but you're
so quick you usually go on
forever are you running somewhere
Well, I got a little hungry.
Oh, okay.
Well, we can stay.
You see, this is so exciting.
You suddenly, you usually, 50 minutes,
you're like,
I got to tell another story now.
Okay.
Well, okay.
Now you've done it.
Okay.
I'm going to tell him how I was saved.
i told it a hundred times um
I'll say the uh the current
audience but jesus showed
up at a at a meeting I was
at and uh standing right
there in front of me yeah
amen changed my life it was
spectacular he'll do that
sometimes I can't guarantee
he'll do it to you but um
he definitely he will
always show up yeah he
always shows up but not
standing like right in
front of me yeah that may
be different I thought he
was gonna punch me
Yeah.
I thought for a second, he might punch me.
What took you so long to repent?
He goes, I saw you a few weeks ago,
repent.
And I was like,
I've been waiting for that.
And so he wanted to like slap me and say,
you should have done that
40 years ago or whenever it was,
I've been waiting for you to do that.
Um,
shoot I had another question
james says he said you know
how I was saved god asked
me if I wanted to be saved
and I said yes I love that
that's fantastic amen um
yes I wish I could remember
what I was just going to
ask you but has to do with
Oh, you grew up in Beverly Hills.
It was about Jews.
Yes.
I grew up in Beverly Hills
with a very large community of Jews.
Entirely Jewish.
I did not meet a Christian
person until college.
Out of those Jews,
it always sounds funny to say,
it's like Mexicans.
I'm Hispanic, by the way.
Were they devout,
the Jews that you mostly
knew in Beverly Hills?
Mixed.
Some were Orthodox,
and a lot of them were secular,
just culturally Jewish.
But yet, when they're culturally Jewish,
do they still eat?
Don't eat pork?
They won't eat pork,
but they just don't eat kosher.
Remember, you're in the book of Numbers.
You just finished Leviticus and Exodus.
All those rules still apply to the Jews.
Wow.
So the question is how adherent are they?
Like my best friend,
as I was a young adult,
when I first came to DC was
an Orthodox Jew.
I learned a lot from her
because we were both fighting terrorism.
So she was working for Steve
Emerson at the time and I
was doing work for the government.
And so we were best friends
and I learned a lot about
habits and stuff like that.
But growing up, there were all kinds,
but I,
When the high holidays came,
they were at temple.
All the kids were bar or bat mitzvahed,
which was their 13th kind
of like communion.
What do you guys call it in
Catholic church?
Catechism?
Catechism.
Yeah.
But they didn't keep to all
of the Levitical laws necessarily.
Like they didn't put the
woman out in the tub for
eight days after her period
and stuff like that.
Right.
So down the street, we have that Beth...
Oh, man, I had to take my time.
It's right on Yerba Linda Boulevard.
Right.
Yeah,
where we see people walking that have
the hats and the locks.
Yeah, Levitical law,
don't shave the sides of your head.
But we don't know any of these people.
Are there any,
do you know of any Jewish
people in our circle of
friends that we...
Because Pastor Jack always
tells us to at least make
friends with atheists and
make friends with some Jews
and have discussions with
them about Jesus.
Not that I know of.
All of the ones I know are Messianic.
They believe in Christ.
I wanted to talk to them a
little bit about this.
I have some in L.A.
that we met at the party.
They're all Jewish.
Our friends that host the
parties out there.
Did you send them a text
message inviting them to our home church?
I have not.
But one of them is on fire
over this whole thing with Candace.
So I was going to engage in
a conversation with her
about it because she's...
And the reason this is
alerted to me is I have a
good friend that I've met
now through social
networking for conservatives.
She's posting a bunch of
videos about Candace.
And one of her latest posts
was something along the lines of...
We now have seen the
anti-Semites hiding under the MAGA flag.
And I was like, oh, for the love of God,
like that is the worst.
That is the worst is to see.
She said that or that is that happening?
Both that that's the way she sees it,
because there's no reason I
see why she sees that.
um because that is what I
would see too based on
their reaction and the
words that they're using uh
but I'm trying to find what
exactly but that is so um
detrimental to who we are
as um as christians is for
the jewish community to
start to think we're
anti-semites wow the
conservatives are anti-semites
I don't see that,
but I think I have to open
my eyes to it a little bit more.
Oh, you definitely do,
because she went and
interviewed Nick Fuentes.
You know,
the more they started calling her
an anti-Semite,
then she went to interview
Nick Fuentes and one other cuckoo bird.
Oh, Norman Finkelstein.
I mean,
everybody knows Norman Finkelstein.
He's a rabid Jew hater,
even though he's Jewish.
So it's just been...
What I want to do is print
out the graphs that Pastor Jack,
the 50 different references
to the Old Testament,
where it talks about
everything that has to do
with Jesus coming to the
earth and resurrection and
all the connections to that prophecy.
I thought that was awesome,
50 different references.
Amazing.
Areas of the Old Testament.
What an amazing graphic.
Point to our Jesus,
not another prophet or not
another Messiah, to Jesus Christ.
Yes.
How do they ignore that?
Eventually, that was my point.
How do you ignore all the
things that are in the Old
Testament that point directly to Jesus?
You think that you're still
waiting for a different one.
Messianic Jews.
Oh, family.
Yeah.
Well, we saw a family that is Jewish,
Cindy, right?
James says Muslims.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's related to this.
He said,
I have you ever seen God work and
God do something that would
hold up in a court of law?
It's an interesting perspective.
James, I got to think about that.
Yeah.
And then I don't know if
that's related to the
statement before Muslims.
Because I'm going to court a
law all the time, so I would definitely,
I would like to figure that out.
Right.
Because now,
currently in the United States,
there used to be a Bible
that you would put your hand on.
The only time I've seen a
Bible now is when I was testifying,
I want to say South Carolina.
Oh, really?
So now what do they put your hand on?
Nothing.
You just raise your hand.
Oh.
You can put your left hand
on the Bible and put your right hand.
And now they aren't swearing
to God anymore, right?
Only in some states.
Then again, North Carolina,
I think it was 1 of those,
maybe South Dakota.
Don't quote me.
I could be wrong at the end.
There's no Bible, but at the end,
they'll say, so help you God.
Why not allowed to say, oh, my Lord,
not if it doesn't have to do with.
Praising God.
even if I'm wanting to call
because I said just a
minute ago a friend of mine
called out that I shouldn't
say oh my god so I'm like
so I can't say oh my lord
this is terrible when I'm
talking to jesus because
I'm literally talking to
you talking to jesus
because I'm saying oh my
lord this is terrible yes I
think that that's okay but
you can't just say oh my
god like that to something
like somebody like just out
of exacerbation right okay
so god that was just a an example
these are christianese folks
because I grew up not
christian so I didn't
realize you know I know
that don't take god's name
in vain like you're not
supposed to stub your toe
and scream jesus um even
though when I really hurt
myself I call out to jesus
but not in a not in a his
taking his name I think as
long as you are directly
talking to him you can call
him by all his names lord
jesus oh I want to show people my new hat
Can I do that before we leave?
Cindy says,
I didn't have any of the
connections of prophecy
brought to me when I was
Jewish in my belief.
Isn't that amazing?
Well, I mean, Cindy,
I wasn't witnessed to ever.
And I was around interfaith leaders,
priests, every single,
nearly every single day.
And no one witnessed to me.
Not a one.
She says she's only one of
two people in the family
that are Messianic.
Yeah.
You know,
there's things that pop up on Facebook,
and every so often I click
the buy button.
Sometimes you get them and
they're not worth the... Yeah,
I got that weird teeth cleaner thing.
It looks so cool, but it just hurts.
Was it good?
I forgot about that.
And I'm like, here, try it.
And he's like, no,
you just finished saying
how horrible it was.
I'm not trying it.
And I was like,
I don't understand why you just won't,
why you won't try with me.
You're like one of those people that says,
oh, this smells terrible.
Here, smell it.
I am.
You just told me that it's terrible.
Exactly.
This really hurts.
It causes bleeding and it
may injure you for the rest of your life,
but here, try it.
Yes.
Be careful.
I give you a disclaimer.
Be careful.
but on facebook I bought
this hat and it is amazing
I love it it's uh says
yahweh on the front adonai
elohim yes I think I love
this on the side on the
other side it's uh I
thought you bought that for
the kids because it looks
like something you would uh
give to bo and it says
world champion like a
baseball like the like the
world series but it's the uh the trinity
It's awesome.
Cindy,
you shouldn't use God's name in a curse.
Absolutely.
So that's obvious to me.
But I was told I shouldn't say,
and I respect and love this
person very much.
And so I agreed to not say it.
Oh, my God,
that I say that out of exacerbation, like,
oh, my God, this is
And quite frankly,
I feel in my heart I'm in
conversation with God all the time.
And so when I say, oh my God,
it's like what I said to
this person was like,
I thought I'm calling
attention to God about
something that's exacerbating me.
And I said, no,
that's taking God's name in vain.
And I was like, okay,
I won't do it anymore.
So that's the context.
So it's not a curse.
It's a calling attention to something.
And I was told that was not
appropriate either.
I think it's not my Catholic faith.
And Andy said it wasn't either.
I said, oh my gosh.
So he says, oh my gosh.
I'm not using the word gosh.
So I'm just going to have to
change my expression.
I say goodness.
I say, oh goodness.
I type O-M-G and it types out, oh my gosh.
Yes.
Yeah.
It bothers me when someone says, Oh my God,
all the time in their
current speech patterns,
because it isn't respecting God.
It's just usage of his name.
Randomly like throwing it out there.
Yeah.
But do you ever say, Oh my God, Cindy,
because you know the
reverence you have for the Lord.
So do you ever say, Oh my God,
like if something exacerbates you,
like somebody tells you your friend,
God forbid has cancer.
Would you in response say, Oh my God,
I can't believe that.
Would you say that?
Is that disrespectful?
So say I type OMG and then I
hit send and it turns into oh my gosh.
Oh, how cute.
But does that happen to everybody?
No, you have to program it in.
Oh.
Anybody else have any opinions?
Please drop them in the comments.
You want to tell me I'm a heathen?
Heathen.
I think I'm ready.
I'm ready to land the plane.
Where did James go?
No, we want to talk to James more.
I don't know if Cindy's still here.
I mean, James is still here.
No, I think that's it.
I think that's it because I
got to leave at 1.30.
I didn't see any prayer requests.
Okay, so we're just closing prayer.
Yes.
Okay.
I'm going to pray for Candice.
Oh, yes.
Dear Lord,
thank you for this time of fellowship.
Thank you for your word.
Thank you for the fact that
you are the same yesterday, today,
and forever.
You are holy, God.
You are holy,
and therefore we shall be holy.
You do not break any of your covenants,
any of your promises to
your sons and daughters.
You will uphold all your
promises to your people, Lord.
And we're so grateful that
we are now grafted into
that community of believers.
whether we originate as the
jewish people or not we are
all one family your church
and we're so grateful to be
your bride lord thank you
we praise your name we love
you and we honor you with
all that we have and all
that we do lord we lift up
candace owens to you and we
ask that you give her
discernment and wisdom um
she loves you she professes
your name and we ask that
you give her a right
understanding that you will
send wise counsel to her
that will advise her and
help her to understand the
relationship between Israel
and God's heart and what
God's heart is for the
Jewish people and for Israel, Lord.
We ask that you do that for
all people who believe in
the wrong doctrine of
replacement theology,
for anyone who has lost
their way and that causes division, Lord,
that your church remain whole and
and a right understanding of your Bible.
Lord,
we ask that you bless all of our friends,
all the people we know and we don't know,
that we've never spoken to, Lord,
that you give them good health,
you give them a good spirit
and strong discernment for
the times that are ahead
where there's so much
deception and desire to
distract the believer.
Lord,
fortify us and renew us with your
strength.
We love you.
It's in the mighty name of
Jesus that we ask all things.
Amen.
All right, my friends, we love you guys.
Love you.
God bless you.
And we're so happy that James joined us.
He appears to be a new viewer.
Thank you, James.
We love you.
God bless.
Bye.