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Make sure to prepare in your Bible,
Daniel 6, 7 through 10.
We'll be talking about that
bit of scripture in just a little bit.
But for now,
I'm going to be reading from A.W.
Tozer for The Christian Leader.
And it's April 2nd today, right?
Yep.
And the date is at home in
the prayer chamber.
And the reference is Daniel 6.10 that says,
Now,
when Daniel knew that the writing was
signed, he went into his house,
and his windows being open
in his chamber toward Jerusalem,
he kneeled upon his knees
three times a day and
prayed and gave thanks before his God.
And he did a four time.
As he did.
And as he did a four time.
As he always did.
Yeah.
He did not change.
No,
he just kept doing it over and over and
over again.
Thomas Akempis says that the
man of God ought to be more
at home in his prayer
chamber than before the public.
No man should stand before
an audience who has not
first stood before God.
Many hours of communion
should precede one hour in the pulpit.
The prayer chamber should be
more familiar than the public platform.
Prayer should be continuous.
preaching,
but prayers should be continuous
preaching, but intermittent.
Oh, okay.
I stumbled on that the last time,
but now it makes total sense.
Prayer should be continuous, like nonstop.
And preaching should be
intermittent every so often.
Right.
I got it.
All right.
It is significant that the
schools teach everything
about preaching except the important part,
praying.
For this weakness,
the schools are not to be
blamed for the reason that
prayer cannot be taught.
It can only be done.
The best any school or any
book or any article can do
is to recommend prayer and
exhort to its practice.
Praying itself must be the
work of the individual.
That it is the one religious
work which gets done with
the least enthusiasm cannot
be one of the tragedies of our times.
It cannot but be one of the
greatest tragedies of our times.
In other words, it's a big tragedy.
Lord,
I pray today that I might more and
more be at home in my prayer chamber.
Help me to pray with a
deeper commitment and greater enthusiasm.
Amen.
It's a good prayer.
May I pray with greater
enthusiasm and a deeper commitment.
Do you mind if I ask you a question?
No.
How is today's devotional
different than yesterday's devotional?
If you remember what it was yesterday.
I do.
I think it's just continuing
on the importance of prayer.
uh another take another
another take the prayer
chamber we didn't talk
about the prayer chamber
yesterday meaning that it
should be something that
you're continually doing at
home so he called our
attention to the importance
of prayer and now he's
saying it's continuous
prayer and prayer at home
that should be the
foundational hallmark of a good preacher
And why can't we blame the schools?
Shouldn't the professors at
Biola College or what's the
other one that's nearby?
Well, I mean,
they can teach you that you must pray,
but
I mean,
it can't really teach you how to pray.
I mean, even in the Bible, it says,
you know, paraphrasing,
that the Lord said,
do not pray by mindless repetition.
You know,
we're not supposed to just repeat
the same prayers over and over again.
So what are they really
going to teach you?
They can't teach you the heart of prayer.
That's something about
developing a relationship with God.
I got so blurry there for a second.
Am I blurry, folks?
Kids, I was calling you kids.
I feel very blurry.
We're playing with a brand new camera.
Yeah.
We just zoomed it in a little bit,
so it looks like it may
have gone out of focus just a little bit.
Yeah.
But we'll continue talking.
Where were we?
I was talking about praying
and how they can't teach prayer.
Yeah,
I think because I think what I'm
getting out of this
devotional is that the
prayer comes with your
relationship with God.
Absolutely.
Your desire to want to talk
to him personally or as the
leader of a church to talk to him for.
Are you talking to would you
be talking to him for your
congregants both or and
also being a good example
to them that you are going to prayer?
It should be something for show,
because that's also
something we're admonished
against in the Bible,
which I don't stand there
like the rabbis on a corner
preaching for show.
You know, it shouldn't be a show.
That's why he mentions, I think,
also the prayer chamber,
because that's something we
do in the secret place at home.
Right.
Carrie says everything is blurry.
Oh, because of your eyesight.
Carrie,
are you referring to our broadcast
or your eyesight?
Her eyesight.
It all looks a little blurry to me, too.
I almost got up there and
changed everything really quick,
but I think she's talking
about it because she put a
bunch of smiley faces, laughing faces.
Saying hello to Carrie.
Hi, Kelly.
Hi, Kate.
And Kate's saying she chats
with the Lord throughout the day.
I totally agree.
That's one of my favorite practices.
And Jan.
Hello, Jan.
Nice to see you.
Uh, and then Kate said, it's her eyesight,
Carrie.
Um, so I'm trying to figure it out because,
uh,
let's just talk about pastor Jack Hibbs.
When we, when we,
watch him on television or
go there we feel we feel um
his love for god through
his uh you know just
through his words and his
uh you know uh references
uh to uh his feelings
towards god as he's reading
like when he reads
scripture he just gets like
oh wow did you hear what he
just said so he still gets
amazed at the word of god
he prays at the beginning
then prays at the end yes
should he be praying in
between I'm not I'm not
sure what is the difference
between preaching sharing
the uh the parts of the
bible that are relevant to
what it is that he's
speaking about on that day
how does prayer fit in are
they saying they should be
more than at the end than
the beginning oh no he's
not referring to why you're
preaching he's saying
prayer should be continuous
preaching intermittent um
but he means in the life of
a believer not in one sermon
okay well because I'm often
looking at the title this
is for christian leaders
right um prayers you like
meaning but you thought
that he meant during the
sermon yes no no that's not
what he means he means he
means prayer should be the
fundamental practice of any
preacher and then
occasionally you get up and
speak oh god I'm glad you're here
Because I'm trying to think, I go,
how would it just be praying?
That would be silly.
No.
And he's saying praying
itself must be the work of
the individual.
So it's significance.
They teach everything about
preaching except the important part,
which is praying.
But this is all about a
personal discipline that
he's referring to.
That's why Thomas Akempis
says the man of God ought
to be more at home in his prayer chamber,
which is a secret place at
home than before the public.
So this is not about what
happens when he's giving a sermon.
It's all about what happens
behind the scenes.
Hmm.
What's Denise saying there?
Hello, Denise Keeman.
Hello, Denise Keenum.
Is there a difference in
praying as in starting with
Heavenly Father and just a
talk where you would just
start talking and like
holding a conversation?
You know, Denise,
that's a very good question
because I actually recall
one of our pastors.
I don't know if it's Pastor
Jack or Pastor Bob who was like, yes,
it's great.
And it actually really got
me thinking because he said,
it's great that you talk to
the Lord throughout the day.
but you should also be
intentional about prayer.
So Pastor Bob is big on
creating a prayer time.
It's actually a whole
section in the church's app.
And so he says,
like this is a subjective opinion,
that the setting aside of a
specific prayer time is
important because you get
in the habit of not just speaking to God,
but listening to God.
And there's five steps to it.
There's praise, there's worship,
there's gratitude, there's asking,
and then there's listening.
And so he says that when you methodically,
and I have to believe he's right,
when you methodically go
through that process,
it will really deepen your
relationship with the Lord
as opposed to just
intermittently speaking to
him throughout the day.
Because I get you.
I am also one of those that
talks to God throughout the day.
And I'm much harder to get
in the discipline of praying.
Very cool.
Kevin says hello.
Hey, Kevin.
Good evening from Garden City, Michigan.
Actually, Kevin,
you'll laugh because I
thought of you when I got a
message on my Facebook page
about somebody from my old life in Fenton,
Michigan, who was like, hey,
weren't you a Sufi Muslim a minute ago?
And I was like, yes, I was.
And he referenced the place
where I used to stay in Fenton.
So, I mean,
we laughed because then I
thought of Kevin being like, yeah,
half an hour away from Benton, Michigan.
And Denise says, I do both,
but I find myself talking
to him all throughout the day.
And that makes a lot of sense.
Thank you.
Can you please also pray for
my three adult children?
They refuse Jesus in a nasty way.
I'm so sorry to hear that.
Absolutely will add your
children to our prayer list tonight.
Three adult children.
Okay.
Carrie says,
sometimes it is just dear
father and I listen in the
word because some days I am
just in a daze.
Yep.
Days of confusion.
That's Pastor Jack Hibbs' book.
I think we did those at least it says yes.
Carey says I pray all day.
I go through my day and Lisa says, Carey,
yes, me the same.
And Lisa's waving hi.
I'm still at the stage where
I have to consciously stop.
Oh, really?
Yes.
I would say May there on occasion,
there'll be just a time
where I'll just say, Oh, God,
can you just help me through this thing?
Maybe we need to make life a
little more difficult for you.
Because surely we do it more often.
Yeah,
because I do it at least once an hour.
i I i pray to him while I'm
trying to do a plank I have
like a one minute plank
what yes and I and his the
my cross is like dangling
on my face because I'm in
the plank position and then
I just I i love you god
please just get me through
this 60 seconds I just need
your help to keep me strong
I do throw in some other stuff,
but I just said, you know,
this is just my time to spend with you.
And you, and he knows he's not,
I don't think he looks at me in that,
you know, at that time and say,
is this the only time you
talk to me is when you are,
you don't think you're
going to make it through
the 60 seconds in a plank position.
Because then I say,
I know that you think this
is the only one I talked to you,
but it's just, it's a good opportunity.
It gets my mind off the pain
that I'm feeling in my, but you don't,
all you ask him for is to
get through that.
You don't know for the kids.
And I do.
Oh, okay.
And I say, make me stronger,
make me a better person.
Help me through the things
that make me curse other people.
Yeah.
See, this is a good question.
You never call 911.
Yeah, isn't that weird?
We need to make this life a
little more difficult.
He needs a little more get
down on your knees kind of praying.
Not a lot.
And you find this funny that
we actually live in the
same house and I am on my
knees at least once an hour.
Well, I had a question for you.
This may not have nothing to
do with the devotional,
but it has to do with our conversation.
Because you brought it up
back when we were getting
our house ready to have the four
changed.
Yes.
Carpet pulled out and old
flooring pulled out and
then new flooring pulled out.
And leading up to that,
you were not in a good way.
And I...
you know I was very careful
not to say what's wrong
with you yeah no I knew
exactly what was wrong and
so I just said is there
anything I could do to help
what do you need done and
then you know you know I
just we just went through
it and so the people that
came in and did the work
lickety split and they did
extra stuff and moved for
and did all kinds of stuff
and and and then it's done
and so my question is after
that do you ever think like
what was I doing
Being so, do you ever get like reflect,
do you reflect on how it
made you so kind of stressed out?
I do.
I am reflective.
I'm not blind to the fact
that I can be a spaz.
I am very self-aware.
Actually,
not only am I so self-aware after,
as I'm going through it, I'm praying,
Lord, why am I so agitated?
Lord, I know this is going to go fine.
I want to not be agitated.
I would have been so much
more agitated if I didn't have the Lord.
That was me unagitated before.
Yes.
Because I'm afraid I don't
even want to say the Lord has.
I mean, this is fine.
Again,
I don't want to say all the things
that it's going on in my
head because that is not helpful to you.
No.
It's not helpful for me to
say those things.
No.
Okay.
But I mean, let's be fair.
I was very much on top of it.
Me and Memo were going
through all the details repeatedly.
He was going to put some
random weirdo colored
talking around the edge.
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I made myself available.
He's like, oh, yeah,
this doesn't really match.
Should we call the company?
I'm like, yes, yes, we're going to.
That does not match.
Please don't do that.
And then I slipped him a 50
to move the furniture back.
because they were about to
leave yeah you know but I
brought them I had them
fill three rooms back up
with furniture so that 50
spot brought him lickety
split back in the house
yeah but can you imagine if
we had to do that all
ourselves back again you
know what I mean yeah it
was at least we had four
guys to whatever like
But the crux of the story is
I am a spaz and I'm a work in progress.
No, but I mean,
so that's the kind of thing
that I don't have the 911s of stuff.
I feel like maybe there's
something wrong with me.
Is there something wrong with me?
Well, I mean, you are...
of people I've known in my life,
you are the least worried.
Actually,
the only similarity I can draw is
my father,
who literally worried about
absolutely nothing.
Like if I didn't have a father like that,
I wouldn't understand you.
But it is not,
I don't think it's as common
to be that laissez faire.
Even for men.
Is that French?
Yeah, laissez faire.
Whatever, whatever happens.
Que sera, sera.
Yes, whatever shall be, shall be.
Well, my mom worried about everything.
And that used to drive me crazy.
And so I think that's why I go.
God gave you a wife just like your mom.
I mean, everything.
Like, oh my gosh, mom.
Remember a cat got hit by a
car and it survived the hit,
but it only got as far as
to the top of our driveway and died.
And she would leave the house.
She called my dad who was
working in Paramount,
which we lived in La Mirada,
which is a good 40 minute drive.
Somebody got 30 minutes with
traffic and he had to drive
all the way home to get rid of the cat.
And she was like in the house pacing.
Oh,
because she didn't want to come outside.
She didn't want to come outside.
And it was like a whole thing.
So that's an example of like,
you need to get home
because this cat died in
the driveway and I'm not going outside.
I'm not walking past that cat.
Sounds like something Ray would do.
I was at home.
I was at school.
I was like, what,
five years old or something.
Carrie says,
I've noticed that we women are
so quick to assess our
involvement in a situation,
but husbands not so much.
Exactly.
Yes, very much so.
Men are really much better
at laissez-faire attitudes
than women are.
Yeah.
All right, let's read the scripture.
Daniel 6.
This is the wonderful story
of Daniel in the den of the lions,
but this is before he goes into the den.
So we're going to start with 7.
And this is where all the
satraps and the governors
are just so jealous of him
because the king loves him
and he's so talented.
So they devise a scheme
where they want to do this
statute where it will
definitely trap Daniel into disobedience.
All the governors of the kingdom,
the administrators and the satraps,
the consulars and the
advisors have consulted
together to establish a
royal statute and to make a
firm decree that whoever
petitions any god or man
for 30 days except you, O king,
shall be cast into the den of lions.
Now, O king,
establish the decree and sign
the writing so that it
cannot be changed according
to the law of the Medes and the Persians,
which does not alter."
Therefore,
King Darius signed the written decree.
And now when Daniel knew
that the writing was signed,
he went home.
And in his upper room,
with his windows open toward Jerusalem,
he knelt on his knees three
times that day and prayed
and gave thanks before his God,
as was his custom since his early days.
So Daniel went home and was like,
that's what I think of your decree.
I love that.
And then they went back and
they tattletaled on him.
And he's like, okay,
send me in the den with the lions.
And guess what?
The lions didn't need him.
And then King Darius felt very guilty.
I'm not sure that I've ever
heard about the Medes before.
Yeah,
the Medes and the Persians were the
dynasties back then.
The Medes no longer exist.
Iranian.
They refer to them as the
ancient Iranian people.
But they don't exist as a
nation separate anymore.
They spoke the Median language.
They have an area known as Media.
Yeah, isn't it fascinating?
Who knew?
The Medes and the Persians.
Right?
Yes.
Interesting.
Lisa said,
the Holy Spirit taught me how to pray.
He highlighted things to me in the Bible.
Amen.
He guides my prayers as I write them out.
It is an active practice.
I love that, Lisa.
Kate says, I usually say something like,
how do you reckon we should
deal with this one, Lord?
That's sweet.
I like that.
Thanks, Lisa, for the great feedback.
Interesting.
I have to stop and really
think about praying.
I definitely want to change that.
I like that you, on a
on a continuous basis,
have these conversations.
I walk into a room,
I'll see you with your
hands clasped together, your eyes closed.
And I go, how do you just do that?
What's happening?
Did I do something wrong?
Am I in trouble?
And I just go, gosh,
I get jealous that you have
such a close conversation,
a close relationship that
you think about that constantly.
Probably because I never did
that to my parents.
You would call your mom every day.
I never did that either.
I have no friends that I call every day.
No,
I'm lucky you answer my texts every day.
Who's the first one to text
you every morning?
Yes.
Don't give me that.
Now it got really dark.
Something happened to the screen.
I don't see the text.
It's that we zoomed it in.
Did that change the color too?
The whole thing looks like
we're in a stormy cloud.
I don't know.
We can get rid of this and
this will help maybe that
this is not there.
It gives us more.
I think when we back up, it gets brighter.
Yeah.
Let me just move the lens
back just a little bit.
We're going to do this on the fly.
Oh, that got brighter when you got up too.
My shirt's a light color.
Okay.
Yeah, my shirt's a light color.
I know I brought the line in over here.
Again, I know.
We were trying to get rid of
all the stuff in the background,
the cords and stuff,
which our producers over at
Real Life think is a little
unprofessional.
We'll fix that.
Oh, you just got to raise your hand.
Just hold your hand here.
Hold your right hand up.
And move it to the right more.
There.
Now just keep it there.
Now they won't see it.
uh you know I got to um is
it okay if I pivot yeah um
something that was on my
mind I don't know if I told
you this oh but uh you know
the six o'clock class did I
mention that the six
o'clock class that I went
to on monday yes the devil
started to distract you
from your bible reading I
think everybody remembers
that class yeah so I wake
up at 4 30 though so I can
do my bible reading and
then go to class which I did
But then I get there for the
six o'clock class so I walk
in about four or 545 and
when I walk in the guy at the desk says,
you know,
we got to find somebody to teach
that class that you're in.
Well, I go next.
He goes, next, next.
He just woke up and he doesn't live.
It's going to take him a half hour to get.
Wait, didn't this happen yesterday too?
This is.
This was yesterday.
Well, Monday.
Monday.
Yeah.
OK.
And so but that's not like
the first time he has.
He has an issue with tardiness.
Yes.
And not being there on time.
And so I knew I had to talk to him because,
you know, I mean, you don't like it.
I don't like tardiness.
I don't like.
No,
especially when I pay the amount of
money I do.
Yes.
Be my trainer.
But Kelly was there.
Kelly shows up.
And Kelly got to see me.
lecture somebody other than him,
one of the other kids.
So I put my hand on Nick and Nick is a,
you know, what is he?
30 something, maybe 35,
something like that.
I put my hand on his shoulder and I said,
you know, I love you.
And he goes, I know.
And I go, okay, then I need to be,
you want, if I love you,
then I need to be honest with you.
I said, you need, you need to,
you need to be on time for your job.
You need to show up.
And you need to be on time
and you need to understand
that the people, when they pay money,
they expect you to be there.
Now your clients, they can be flaky.
They can be, but you cannot.
Yeah.
And he just was,
he's sharing to me that he, um,
is like number one in the nation.
I was telling you in, in customers, I said,
you're, you're, I'm proud of you.
And I'm so happy that you
have all the success,
but it'll go away because it's,
it's one thing to get the clients.
It's, it's another thing to keep them.
Right.
I said,
you will not keep your clients and
you will, you will fail.
And next thing you know,
you'll be gone if you don't
show up on time.
I said, you said all of that.
I said, I said,
people only tolerate you
being late so long.
And then they will.
And he's like, look,
he looked at me like Kelly looks at me.
Kelly stares at my eyes when
I talk to him.
And he's like,
he's like staring right at my face.
He's like this far away from me,
staring right in my eyes.
And he's like, okay, I get it.
I get it.
I understand.
I said, okay,
I'm just going to let you know.
I said, I've owned a lot of businesses.
I've had up to 400 employees,
so I know what I'm talking about.
I said,
you will be gone if somebody complains.
And he goes, I get it.
I understand.
I said, okay, that's all.
But no apology?
No, he hugged.
He hugged me and said, thank you.
Okay.
But the interesting thing
was that Kelly was standing
there like he was working out,
but you could see him like
looking to see like, wow,
my dad does this to everyone.
I thought it was just me.
He does.
He gives dad talks to strangers.
Tattooed guys that have
shiny fingernails and wear pink suits.
I love it.
So he got the talk.
He got the Andy talk.
That's good.
Yes.
That's good.
He earned it.
He really did.
I can't imagine if he was
your trainer and he did that to you.
Like you'd get up and you'd
be there at 545 in the
morning to expect them to
be there and you didn't show up.
I'd kick some rear end.
Oh, yeah.
You would have.
Yeah.
I kind of would like to see that.
I would have been pissed.
But then again,
I wouldn't have a trainer
that doesn't show up.
That's true.
I really wouldn't.
I don't know what it is about me,
but that happens a lot.
I would have fired him the
first time that happened.
I think it's the nice thing.
They just think you're so nice.
I can always change his schedule.
He always tries to change my schedule.
I stop going to somebody
when they do that.
They do.
They eventually do it.
Sorry, that was such a pivot, folks.
Carrie has a prayer request.
Surgery April 17th,
but only if I can get help
because I have to be face
down seven days after
surgery while being awake.
So the cataract surgery, you're awake?
My mom was out.
Why are you awake?
I've heard that a lot.
Really?
There's certain types of
brain surgery that you have
to stay awake.
My brother did one once with
the probe thing in his eye.
He said it was literally...
He said it's the scariest
thing he's ever done in his entire life.
And then the doctor tried to
do the other eye.
He's like, no, no, no, no,
we're not doing that again.
He couldn't do the other eye.
Just out of the fright,
not because of the pain.
Yeah, no, he just, it was too weird,
too crazy, too creepy.
Doesn't he believe in God?
Yeah.
Fear is a sin.
I don't know what Allah says about that.
He's a leader of his faith,
and he's so afraid that he
didn't do the other eye.
He didn't do the other eye.
It's not, yeah, this fixing hole thing.
I think that's what my brother had.
It's not cataract.
It's fixing a hole in the macula.
Oh, my goodness.
I'm so sorry.
We're definitely praying for that, Gary.
That sounds very scary.
What kind of help?
Does it mean like a home
nurse type of thing?
I think she's talking about,
are you saying you need help?
Is it for you or you need help for Eddie?
Because you're going to be
face down for seven days.
And Kate is talking about the prayer.
She's saying women are more verbal.
Andy,
our relationship with God is uniquely
between him and us.
No format can replace chatting with him.
And they put three metal shots in the eye.
And she is worried about Eddie.
Okay.
So it has a seven day recovery time.
And you're awake.
Does it feel like you have
sand in your eye too, I'm wondering?
Yeah, like how are you awake?
If you're awake and then you
have seven days it takes to recover?
They put a shunt in your eye?
Oh my God.
Shunts.
I'm terrified.
Whatever it is, it sounds bad.
I'm very terrified, Gary.
Like shunts to keep your eyelids open?
Yeah,
I think that's what my mom was saying.
That's what my brother was saying.
It was so terrifying.
He couldn't close his eyes.
They were opening.
It's like a scary movie.
My brother was a horror flick master.
He's like,
God's punishing me for all those
horror movies I watched.
Yes, seven days,
three shunts for inserting
the surgical tools.
How about volume, Kerry?
Can you take some volume
before you go there?
Oh, my goodness.
So just back to Kate's
comment there about no
format replaces chatting with him.
You guys just like to chat, though.
That's a woman thing, too.
Yes.
Hmm.
But I want to chat with him more.
But there's no reason why you can't.
I know, but I just.
And the way Pastor Jack describes it,
he chats with God.
Yeah, well, that's Jack.
No, but meaning is he's a man.
So men do it.
It's not just women.
And if you notice,
he's looking more and more
manly every day.
He's got that whole beard thing going on.
Everybody at my church at my
gym today was like,
what's with Jack and the beard?
I'm like, what am I, the barber?
I like it.
Yeah, you either love it or you hate it.
He kind of looks,
there's a dog that he kind of looks like,
reminds me of,
that has like the fur
around their face like this,
and he looked like to me the other day.
Oh, no.
I love that guy.
We haven't got a date yet
for our next interview.
Oh, did she respond?
She did, but she said, okay, I got it.
We'll be looking for some dates,
and that's the last thing I heard.
But that happened last time, too.
I just got to keep emailing her.
Jesus would have just put mud in your eye,
Carrie.
Oh, those were the days.
Yeah, spit in it.
Right?
Yeah.
Carrie says, I hate the beard.
Yeah,
that's what a lot of people are saying.
I like the beard.
I hope he doesn't take a
poll about the beard because it'll go.
What's wrong with me?
I like the beard.
I don't know.
I wonder if Lisa likes it.
And Carrie says she's usually brave,
but she's really worried about this.
Rightfully so, Carrie.
Xanax.
Xanax also helps.
Pray about it, Carrie.
No need for face for if you
have a sweet face.
I think he's getting ready for war.
Does that count you out?
You know, for the playoffs in hockey,
that's one thing.
You don't shave during the
playoffs in hockey if
you're a hockey player.
Well,
either do the Navy SEALs when they go
into Afghanistan.
So I think that's what
Jack's getting ready for.
He realizes we're getting
ready for battle.
I think that's what it is.
That's a signal.
That's the signal to us
Christian nationalists.
You're going to try to...
Oh, my God.
You guys don't know how many
interviews of commentary on
Candace Owen I have watched in the past.
I have hours and hours of videos.
And I was telling Andy before we went on,
I think my most annoying
one was Charlie Kirk's, actually,
because he just kept
ranting about how Christ is
king is not anti-Semitic.
And I was like, Andy, it's just like,
I had a friend who had
white power written on his
arms and he was proceeding
to tell me that it's not racist.
And I was like,
you have white power
tattooed on your arms.
Like, how is that not racist?
And he's like, well,
we were kids and we were just like,
it was our little group and
that's how we distinguished ourselves.
It's like, you could turn anything,
you could turn a kitchen
knife into a weapon.
You know, it's the context of the words.
Of course, Christ is king.
Of course,
we believe that he is the king
of kings and the Lord of lords.
But if you say in the midst of an argument,
Christ is king in order to
shut the person up or
weaponizing scripture by
calling somebody's
attention to you cannot serve two masters,
money or God, as if their behavior,
for example,
If we got in a fight and I
sent you scripture that
said be from James,
I believe it's James 1, be slow to speak,
quick to listen and slow to
speak and slow to anger.
Would you not read into that,
that it was connected to our fight?
It would be my way of saying, you know,
you shouldn't have gotten so angry at me.
And she's like,
how dare you read yourself
into scripture?
You're in the middle of an
argument and you cite scripture.
Of course,
the person's going to read into
the scripture.
Otherwise,
why are you citing that piece of
scripture?
You know what I mean?
Don't you agree?
I agree.
So it's just like,
and then all of these
people coming to the
defense that Christ is King
is not antisemitic.
Nobody said the words,
the three words in and of
themselves are antisemitic,
but directed at a Jewish
person in response to an
argument in retaliation to a comment that
Is anti-Semitic.
You know, I mean,
and we can have differing
viewpoints about that for sure,
but it's not innocuous.
It's not innocuous to say to somebody,
it's the same comment that
people make often in
reference to Jewish people.
This is the dichotomy in the
Christian world.
Well, the Jews killed Jesus.
Is that comment inherently anti-Semitic?
The Jews, as a factual matter,
did kill Jews.
They don't use it as a dig.
Right.
Well, the Jews killed Jesus.
You know what I mean?
Muhammad's a pedophile.
It doesn't matter whether
the factual accuracy of the statement,
it's inappropriate.
Yeah, well,
as far as couples are concerned,
you don't want to use the
Bible as a weapon in conversation.
Right.
You're bastardizing the Bible.
Yeah.
But you shouldn't do it to a
friend either or a colleague.
And the Jews are our friends.
Which, that was her colleague.
Yes.
That she said it to.
You can't serve money and
God at the same time.
That's so... That's a dig.
That's a dig, man.
I don't know how you want
to... It's just scripture.
Yeah, it's just scripture,
but you used it as a weapon.
It's like the old joke.
You know the old joke of the
Jewish cars that they make now?
They stop on a dime and pick it up.
Why?
Oh, my gosh.
I just made myself.
Kate says, haha,
how do you really feel about it, Eddie?
I love your fashion.
I am so riled up over this topic.
Well, because as I said last night,
it just drives me crazy.
It worries me because I feel
like it has very
significant consequences government-wise,
national security-wise,
the whole domestic terrorism issue,
the whole categorization of
Christian nationalism.
It really feeds into this
narrative that we are...
exclusionary and bigoted.
And it really does nothing for our cause.
And I just wish everybody
who's trying to defend her
would stop because it's just,
it's making it worse.
Thank you.
Gary says, I agree.
It is an insult to Jews and
thank God the Jews did
because where would the Gentiles be?
Good point.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, I had something for you.
He says, I agree 100%.
Yes.
Thank you, Denise.
I know people definitely
don't agree because there's
a bunch of people on the
internet who do not agree
and a bunch of famous
podcasters and people
coming out saying that, you know,
there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
And I don't know.
I think it's going to continue to unravel,
the right.
And I'm sure that the left
is loving watching us tear
each other to shreds.
Yeah,
because we love it when they do it to
themselves too.
Like what's happening with
the Palestinian issue.
Right.
The Democrat Muslims.
Democrat Muslims.
Then you have the Jews that
are divided in the same issues.
Right.
Yeah,
so I really enjoy that when that happens.
The world's chaos right now.
Yeah.
Denise says some of them are
just too big for their britches.
Exactly.
Lack humility, lack wisdom.
You know,
wisdom is different than intellect.
And there's a sense of
wisdom that also comes from age.
And so I'd mentioned once on
a previous broadcast,
we had an expression in D.C.
that was called don't be a blue flame,
which is you shoot real high, real fast,
and then you die out
because you either step in
it or you just make poor choices.
And I feel like some of these, you know,
influencers that gain fame.
I mean, let's be honest,
Candace and Charlie's fame
came from Trump.
They had nothing before Trump.
And so now they have this
ginormous amount of
influence and platform,
and I just don't think they
often have wisdom that comes from age,
from experience, because they're young.
you can be really smart and
you can be very clever and
charismatic at a very young age,
but I think wisdom often takes time.
Yep.
Absolutely.
So just in a, it, this is related.
I know it may not sound related, but, um,
yes.
Thank you, Denise.
You know, I, I'm very much into this, this,
this election that's coming up.
We are, um,
trying to find school board
members to run and making
sure that the ones who are running again,
you know,
we're preparing them and that
kind of stuff.
And then there's a whole
bunch of issues that the
progressives in our area,
the union reps and leaders,
the teachers unions,
They're just throwing all kinds of chaos,
is what they do, right?
They throw as many things
out there that teachers are being fired,
administrators are being fired,
staff is being fired,
that it's a bloodbath in
the school district,
that there's all these
things that are happening,
none of which is true.
And so I've been making
videos about it and making
sure they understand.
Here are the real numbers.
Three years ago,
12 principals didn't have
their contracts renewed,
and this time we only have
two not getting their contracts renewed.
That is not chaos.
Right.
Zero teachers are being fired.
And so I'm making these videos.
But right now,
I'm the I'm the hottest
topic in these liberal
Facebook groups that are, you know,
private groups.
I get all the people.
We have trolls.
We have we have people inside.
We have moles on the inside.
And they're taking
screenshots and send them to me.
But it's all about Andy.
And they're taking videos of
mine now and they're on
their third video that they've cut up.
It's a fairly odd pair.
No, it's even,
it's my more recent ones
saying that I'm lying.
And I go,
how could I be lying about the
superintendent going in the
newspaper and saying zero
teachers are going to be fired?
Like what, how,
how do you turn that into a
video that I'm lying?
But they,
they twist my words and try to
make it sound that way.
But yeah,
But back to the point is
that I have to be very
careful more than ever to
make sure that I'm really
thinking through.
So what I do now is I record a video.
I send it to a couple of people like, okay,
can you watch this?
And tell me if you see
anything that sounds funny
or messed up or that kind of stuff.
So I got a group of parents
that run through it and
will tell me if we do it.
So on occasion, I've had to redo a video.
Because maybe I skipped over
something like that.
So these are the things that
are so important as we're
going into this time.
And Candice is one of those people.
You have to be so careful.
And I know what she's saying.
She's saying, I'm so smart.
I'm so terrific.
And what I said is what I said.
And you just need to listen to it.
And she's so not doing kind
of like what I know I need
to do on occasion is go, you know what?
I may have said the wrong thing.
Let me fix that.
Let me tweak that and make it better.
It takes humility.
Yeah, but it's so important.
And sometimes humility comes with age.
Even knock down a couple pedestals,
you know,
off of a couple pedestals to
learn what it means to be humble.
I don't mind.
I mean, a friend of mine named Karen,
she'll read something and
watch the video and she goes, you know,
so tell me, you know,
you may need to change this or that.
A lot of it has to do with,
I know you'll find this shocking,
but I misspelled something.
Or I'll put a comma where
there's not supposed to be a comma.
She catches those too.
She's my headia when it
comes to those kind of comments.
But it's so important.
You've got to slow down.
Slow down.
You've got to be reflective.
Is that the right word?
Reflective on what it is
you're saying and say, you know what?
I know that I meant to say this,
but I understand how people
could take it this other way.
And let me retract that.
And I am in the habit since D.C.
to not write anything that I
don't expect splattered on
the front page of a newspaper.
So that's also another important habit,
which you guys in your
signal group do not do.
So I always wonder if that's
going to come back to some of you.
The stuff in the signal group?
Yeah.
Because just like you guys
screenshot everything,
you have no idea who's
screenshotting what.
So every conversation that's
in writing should be,
you should expect it to be
on the front page of an Facebook.
That way you never regret.
It's a lesson I tried teaching Zara,
but she doesn't appear to
listen to that either.
As you know, kids don't listen, but still,
it's good practice.
Proverbs 4, 7,
wisdom is the principal thing.
Therefore, get wisdom.
And with all that getting,
get understanding.
Amen.
And Jan says, Andy,
you are very well known in
this community.
Even my hairdresser told me
she knows who you are.
That's really cute.
I do see more looks when I
walk into places now than I did before.
People will go, wait,
they'll do this thing.
Okay.
And Carrie says, amen.
Bible says, while getting knowledge,
get some wisdom.
Amen.
Of all the things that Solomon prayed for,
he prayed for wisdom.
Yep.
All right.
How about our prayer request list?
Ready to go.
Do you have any,
do you have any that you
can think of of people that
have reached out to you or maybe, yeah,
for yourself, maybe, or.
Absolutely.
Um, what are they?
I want to know ahead of time.
You want to know ahead of time?
Yeah.
I want to make sure you don't forget.
Okay.
Well, I am, uh,
I always like to pray for
my friend that's recovering
from cancer from a double mastectomy.
Uh, cause that's always brutal.
Um,
And that's it for the ladies
in their conditions.
I know what they are, for the most part,
other than Carrie's very
scary eye surgery.
I would like to pray for you
to add Nick to their prayer
that he get his act together.
Set his alarm.
Right.
No, just that he gets, you know, wiser.
Yeah.
Wisdom.
I hate for him to throw away
all the success that he is getting.
It'll go away really quickly.
Oh, and for Kate's brother, Paul.
What are we praying for him, Kate?
Is it coming to faith or was it sickness?
I believe you've asked us to
pray for him once before.
Yeah, that sounds right.
You can tell me.
I'll start praying.
Sometimes it takes key to respond.
It has to come all the way from Australia.
Yeah.
Dear Lord, we love you.
We offer ourselves as a living sacrifice.
It is such an amazing,
we're coming off with a
wonderful time of celebrating your death,
burial, and resurrection.
And we're excited for our
resurrected lives, Lord, that
you've given us a new spirit
and we have the opportunity
to transform our existence
while we're here on Earth
Lord to hear your voice to
be um cogent and thoughtful
in our prayer life with you
that we call you to mind
and have you in
conversation and that we
are intentional about our
prayers that we're more
diligent and enthusiastic
about praying to you knowing
that you are not only the
creator of the universe but
you have your living holy
spirit dwelling within us
and that you're so close to
us that we could be in
conversation that you are
relational and um we should
take advantage of that
relationship it is such a gift
uh thank you lord for faith
um thank you for good
health and for provision
without measure lord we ask
and we lift up to you our
brothers and sisters in
their time of need as
they're going through
healing carrie has this
very difficult surgery
coming up lord and so we
ask for you to give her
ease and comfort and um
Just courage during that.
It sounds tremendously difficult, Lord.
So we ask that you make it
easy because you are able
to make anything easy.
It is the cure that's in your hands.
You are Jehovah Rapha,
the great physician.
We love you and we thank you
in advance for what you will do.
We also pray for Paul, Kate's brother,
Lord, that we...
that he finds healing uh
he's got terrible cancer
lord and he's suffering and
we ask for your healing
hand upon his life and we
also ask for denise's three
older children who are far
from you lord um that have
seemed to turn their back
on you lord but we know uh
that you can awaken any of
any of us, Lord,
and we ask that you call them to faith,
that you bring them to their knees,
that they realize that you
are the one true God.
Whatever it takes, Lord,
whatever it takes for our
children to bow the knee in this life,
Lord, we're willing to go through that.
We trust you, Lord.
Your promises are true.
And we give them into your care, Lord,
and we ask for you to save
them and redeem them.
Everyone else that's suffering, Lord,
of an illness,
we ask for restoration and for healing.
And for those that are
suffering from joblessness
or financial difficulties, Lord,
we ask that you send them
provision without measure.
And that you continue to
bless us and use us as your servants,
as the army of Christ, Lord.
We love you.
It's in the mighty name of
Jesus that we ask all things.
Amen.
Wow.
um lisa says when you have
people who are very sharp
wooden minds they can clash
people need to be more
humble all of them so true
I think that's the clash of
the titans it reminds me of
the transformers movie where they're like
It's big metal thing.
You're like,
maybe you should just slow down a little.
Just slow down.
Ben now says, smell the grass.
Just go outside and smell the grass.
It's like it made me laugh.
It's a funny expression.
And then he said that was beautiful.
Thank you.
Thank you, Denise.
Love you guys.
God bless you.
See you again soon.
God bless.
Take care.
Talk to you later.
Bye.