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And for today, our scripture,
find it in your Bibles, Colossians 4,
2 through 6.
Colossians 4, 2 through 6.
So for today, it is A.W.
Tozer for the Christian Leader,
April 25th.
And the title is Pray Till You Pray.
Continue in prayer and watch
in the same with thanksgiving.
That is Colossians 4, 2.
A.W.
says, Dr. Moody Stewart,
a great praying man of a past generation,
once drew up a set of rules
to guide him in his prayers.
Among these rules is this one,
pray till you pray.
So profound.
The habit of breaking off
our prayers before we have
truly prayed is as common
as it is unfortunate.
Often,
the last 10 minutes may mean more to
us than the first half hour.
because we must spend a long
time getting into the
proper mood to pray effectively.
We may need to struggle with
our thoughts to draw them
in from where they have
been scattered through the
multitude of distractions
that result from the task
of living in a disordered world.
If, when we come to prayer,
our hearts feel dull and unspiritual,
we should not try to argue
ourselves out of it.
Rather, we should admit it, frankly,
and pray our way through.
Some Christians smile at the
thought of praying through,
but something of the same
idea is found in the
writings of practically
every great praying saint
from Daniel to present day.
We cannot afford to stop
praying till we have actually prayed.
Oh, Lord,
what an important and needed challenge.
Help me to wait and pray through.
Amen.
So I experience this literally every day.
Cause I do my Bible reading
and then I sit and I pray
and I don't know.
It's like,
there's squirrels that cross my mind.
They're like running across
the path and I go and I'm
somewhere else and I'm like, Oh Lord,
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Wait, well, who was I praying for?
And then I go,
I start the list over again
and then my mind wanders again.
And then I come and I shoo
it back into place.
It's a, yeah, it's nutty.
That's how I am just with reading.
Oh, yeah.
No, I can get through the reading,
but the prayer part is...
And then I literally get up
to get out of the bed, and I'm like,
I didn't say,
and thank you in the name of Jesus.
I just start praying for people.
Lord, bless this person.
And then I'm like, okay,
getting out of bed now.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no,
no getting out of the bed
until you finish the prayer.
I'm a little...
worried because it looks
like he prays for 40 minutes.
Right.
And then there's that.
I mean, I can't imagine 40 minutes.
You know, if my prayer is short,
I can stay concentrated.
Three minutes?
How long do you pray for?
Well,
if I do the dance that I just
described to you,
it could be a good 10 minutes.
Oof.
Yeah.
How long do you guys pray?
Do you guys have 40 minute
prayer sessions each day?
That must be why people talk
about going into a prayer room.
Yes.
And what do you call praying?
Is reading the Bible praying?
Some people include the time
listening to worship music
and reading the Bible as prayer time.
I'm always thinking that
prayer has to do with
having that conversation with God.
Right.
But you're reading his words.
You are having a
conversation because he's
talking to you and you're
hoping that you're going to
hear something personal.
But the Bible is his love letter.
I mean,
this is this is the things I've
heard from people before in
terms of the prayer time
with the Lord is not just.
Hi, God.
Can you give me a new car?
What else?
Good health.
Get my kids off my back.
The kids are annoying.
Can you make them nice?
Can you make them smile?
Yes.
See, I'm done.
See, I'm already done.
It's not even a minute.
Well, but see,
that's why it's really
important to pray for other people.
You should have a prayer list of people.
I have a running list in my head.
But it's not simply about
the amount of time.
It's the quality time.
Right.
It's not quantity.
It's quality.
I just made that up.
You mean if it's not quality,
it's quantity?
It's not quantity, it's quality?
I got news for you, Buster.
It's not.
You didn't make that up.
Oh, I thought I'd get.
I'd slip that one past you.
No.
You've heard that before?
I have.
Hmm.
So.
Wait, we have some comments.
Let's see.
Let's see what our audience
is contributing.
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I want to take your job, Snooks.
Uh.
Andy,
who wrote your reports when you were
on the job?
Oh, those are different.
Those are different reports.
I'll explain after the...
The main portion of our show.
And Kerry's saying you need sodium.
Yes, everybody needs sodium for sure.
But some people have too much sodium.
So you don't want to tell
them it's a sodium product
because they'll be like, oh, no,
I have high sodium.
I don't want to take it.
Kerry said what I said.
And Andy also said sod is grass.
And...
Carrie says,
he must have been listening in
on my prayers.
Right?
Kelly's saying,
I think we all get distracted in prayer.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And then Carrie says, thank you, Kelly.
Now my guilt is only 50%.
Oh,
something weird just happened on the
thing.
I used to write my prayers
and it's easier to stay on track.
Yes.
That's what I do for my prayer list.
That's a good idea.
Isn't it?
Why have you not ever told me to do that?
I don't know.
I have to go to Carrie.
Carrie has to be the one to tell me.
Well,
you have to hear it from a legitimate
source.
Wives are nothing but naggers.
Try to avoid nagging.
I'm fixing my package that you tore open.
I like that idea, though.
So you write out
Dear God,
I love you and I appreciate
everything that you've given me.
Thank you for my amazing life.
Yes, always start with that.
Thank you for my amazing life.
So Pastor Bob has an acronym,
How to Grow Your Prayer Life,
and it's in our app.
But I can't remember what the acronym is,
but the order of things is
you come with praise,
you start with praise,
and then thanksgiving,
and then something and then
requests and then you
listen so there should be
an order to how you
approach the lord so that
um I think it comes from
philippians philippians 4 2
I'm gonna look that I feel
like I've heard that before
right yeah um oh is that
the is that the acronym
kelly axe what did you say
that what was the first thing you said
No, but mine was Thanksgiving,
but it could be another synonym for it.
The T is thanks.
And, yeah,
the Lord's Prayer is a template
for order.
I've heard that as well.
Yes.
Let's go to the scripture.
Let's see if it gives us anything else.
What do you say?
Sure.
We are Colossians 4, 2 through 6.
Devote yourselves to prayer,
being watchful and thankful.
And pray for us too that God
may open a door for our
message so that we may
proclaim the mystery of
Christ for which I am in chains.
Pray that I may proclaim it
clearly as I should.
Be wise in the way you act
towards outsiders.
Make the most of every opportunity.
Let your conversation be
always full of grace, seasoned with salt,
so that you may know how to
answer everyone.
So I was thinking about this
when we sat down to study it,
and I had a very cool experience today.
I didn't make a home run,
but I got one step farther.
So you all may remember,
Andy and I go to this
Muslim coffee shop place
that's near this restaurant that we go.
We mentioned how we were
once surrounded by a bunch
of their young people,
and we got a little bit
nervous because...
They're a little bit intimidating looking.
And we just didn't have the
guts to witness to them.
We just kind of like went by.
But it's a supreme desire
every time I walk in there
to just find a way of talking.
Just say Jesus.
I don't know how,
but I'm going to say Jesus.
So found the opportunity today.
It was so exciting.
So the guy says to me, he says,
takes my order and he says,
and he's wearing a free
Palestine T-shirt.
Okay.
Everybody in the place is
wearing a free Palestine T-shirt.
They must have just came from UCLA or USC.
I don't know what everybody
in the place was.
And so I said, he said,
what's your name for the order?
And I said, Hadiyah.
And I said it with an Arabic accent.
And he's like, Hadiyah.
um you know what that means
and I was like of course I
know what it means I really
get annoyed when people say
that to me but I had a big
smile on my face I said of
course it means gift you
know it means the same
thing in six languages he's
like oh wow no I didn't
know that may I ask where
you're originally from so I
purposely when I walked in
so I'm wearing a sweatshirt
right and my cross was
inside I purposely
intentionally took my cross
out before I walked through the door
So he's looking at me, right,
because he's taking my order,
and he glances down,
and he sees the cross, and he says to me,
can I ask where you're from?
And I said,
my parents are originally Iranian,
but I was born here.
I became a follower of Christ,
even though my parents are Muslim.
And then I just smiled.
Whoa, Dolly.
And I just smiled.
And then he looks at me and says,
Mashallah.
And I was like,
you really didn't mean that.
But you said that.
Mashallah is like, good for you.
Like, praise Allah.
Thank God.
And I looked at him and I
laughed because he is used
to autonomically saying that.
But he wouldn't have meant that if.
Did you say that out loud to him?
That you didn't mean that
about the marshmallow?
No.
But I smirked at him.
I smirked at him.
Like, you didn't really mean that.
You said it because you're
just used to saying it.
But now that I've built a rapport with him,
I am able to go back in and do it.
Did you watch them make your coffee?
Because when I wore my
police uniform into places,
I watched them make my food.
Right?
Yeah.
Because they used to spit in
our food and put...
Oh, I can imagine.
All kinds of nonsense in our foods.
I found toothpicks all
broken up inside my
sandwich at Mimi's once.
Yeah.
Yeah, all kinds of stuff happens to you.
And that was back when they loved us.
Imagine what they're doing now.
I mean,
I bet you there's no cop going to a
place unless they know the owners.
Wow.
Is this so terrible?
If it goes back to the kitchen,
where they did most of the
dance was Mimi's Cafe.
Sorry, Mimi's,
but Mimi's did give me a
year's worth of coupons.
That is just tragic.
Yeah.
What do you think of my story?
That's a great story.
I love that story.
Because, you know,
I'm obsessed with that place.
Yes.
God just wants to open that
door for me because I'm obsessed with it.
I pray over it every time I cross it.
I'm just going to tell you as your husband,
this is probably not the
time to go in there and cause a ruckus.
I was actually thinking of
wearing an Israeli flag
t-shirt next time.
Be bold as a lion, folks.
Be bold as a lion.
But not when I'm alone.
I'd have to wait for you.
Thanks.
Thanks for putting me in that position.
Yes.
I'm going to have to be packing my gas.
It's a little bit scary in there, folks.
It's like a little it's a
little piece of Arabia.
It's a little it's a little Gaza.
Yeah, it's a little Gaza.
We have an area in Anaheim,
I may have mentioned this before,
that we used to call,
even back in the day,
we called it the Gaza Strip
because it's a bunch of
Muslims that live in a small, little,
thin strip off of Brookhurst in Anaheim.
Oh, wow.
They have lots of hookah
bars and all the nonsense.
Okay, take over.
Accolades, contrition, thanksgiving,
supplication, praise, repentance, thanks,
requests.
Oh, wow.
Well, that's a lot more than just acts.
Yeah.
It's acts of... What's with
the spit at the end?
Acts of...
uh carrie says I prayed for
a neighbor who stole my
green trash can she then
gave me fresh eggs I prayed
more she gave me oranges I
prayed more she pulled my
weeds so I pray for her
every day now oh that's
fantastic that's a great
story pray for those who
persecute you see did she
steal your green trash can
or was it after a windy day
it ended up in front of her
roll down yeah right
I'm always expecting that to
happen one day.
People steal our trash.
Well, yeah,
because we live on a little bit
of a slant.
Yeah.
So everything goes down to
the neighbor next door to us.
Yeah,
I've still got to really think about
this prank for 40 minutes.
Just when I think I'm doing good,
then Tozer or Spurgeon or
somebody throws something else at you.
This is what you need to be doing.
Speaking of,
Jack had a great podcast today.
It's called Cake or Steak.
Cake or Steak.
Yeah.
So he's like,
where are you in your walk with Jesus?
Are you just eating cake?
You're going to die.
You're going to get diabetes like that.
He's like, you need to eat steak.
You need to choose the right food.
You need to choose right.
He's like, are you saving money?
Are you spending it all?
Are you blowing it all?
Are you helping other people?
Are you generous?
And I was like, oh, he's on fire.
And he's just like, you know, listen,
we occupy ourselves until the Lord comes.
What kind of choices are you making?
What are you doing with your time?
Are you just on the golf course all day?
Are you just at the gym all day?
So, yeah.
Well, when you're at the gym,
you're talking Jesus.
I'm talking Jesus.
And I do, too.
The people that keep telling
me they're coming to our
church don't come, though.
I'm going to get them there.
I remind them when they don't come, too.
I said, oh, you said you were coming.
I waited there at the door.
I waited for you.
I actually brought Mexican
burritos just because I
know that's your favorite food.
You can tell them that one day.
Yeah.
Well, okay.
So I had this really cool
conversation with my friend at the gym.
And so what I loved about it was that,
so we were talking about
evangelizing and he said
some really nice things
about my prayer the other
day at our home church.
And he says, you know, he says,
I have this, like, I feel the urge to,
That the Lord is telling me
he's still very close,
lives with his ex-wife and
her soon to be fiance
because of their special needs son.
Right.
So he rents a room from them.
And he says,
I have this urge to tell her
you're not going to live in
eternity with our son because, you know,
his schedule.
I mean, he's on borrowed time,
borrowed time, extended time.
And so he's like,
you're going to go to hell
and he's going to go to
paradise and you're not
going to get to spend an eternity.
Like,
don't you care that you are going to
be separated from him for an eternity?
And he's like, but that sounds so cruel.
And I said, you know,
what's so cool about
listening to you is that I
knew as soon as I became an
evangelist that the Lord
gave me that anointing.
That that was not my methodology.
He told me,
come to them with love and with
grace and tell your testimony.
And I said,
but you are a turn and burn preacher.
He's like, he says, I keep feeling it.
And I'm like, well,
then you are anointed for that.
Because there are people who
come to God from the fear of the Lord.
Some come through love of the Lord.
But not everybody has the same anointing.
And it's literally the first
time I've ever heard somebody say that.
Like literally, other than, of course,
what I know about Glenn,
that before he's even said it, he says,
I just feel like that's
what I'm supposed to talk about.
But he's hesitant because he
thinks it comes off so harsh, you know?
And I was like, some people need harsh.
Like, that's what speaks to them.
Some people need to be direct.
I don't know if it's harsh.
Well,
telling you you're going to burn in hell?
No.
It's direct.
A lot of people think that's harsh.
You're damning them to hell.
But I'm not damning them.
I didn't write the book.
I'm not damning you.
But I'm just telling you
what the book says.
Yeah, you're being direct.
It's not harsh.
whatever you know what you
should do and you probably
do this but when you pray
out loud and bringing up
the home church is that you
you have a pretty I'm not
not in a bad way but you
have a more lengthy prayer
I think it's it's praying
out loud really is your
connection to god as
opposed to what in your
head because when I pray in
my head I it goes I start
thinking about other things
I lost the thread,
so start from the beginning.
Sorry.
I'm just confused.
I'm still on turn and burn.
When you pray out loud,
you're very succinct and you don't stray.
You don't suddenly say,
I'm going to write this on
the grocery list.
Oh, you mean like it's helpful?
Oh, yeah.
I think that applies to anybody.
Pray out loud and your
prayer will be much more.
Because you're not going to
come out loud and say,
and I need to buy groceries today.
For sure.
Yeah.
And I actually do that a lot
when I'm alone.
You can do it well when you're not alone.
Really?
Yeah.
Just start yelling out my prayers?
Yes, just like you do on our church day.
Well,
I do that in home church because I'm
also waiting for the Lord to speak.
Mm-hmm.
for the Holy Spirit to give me utterance.
And that day in particular,
my warriors were not there.
And I was praying over a warrior.
So I feel like the Lord gave
me a special dose of something.
Because Jason asked me about that.
He's like, how do you pray like that?
And I was like, he's like,
you could tell something
came over you that it wasn't just you.
And I was like, absolutely.
Because I later went up and I asked her,
I was like, did any of that make sense?
Like, did that resonate?
And she's like, yeah, absolutely.
And I was like, oh, thank God.
Yeah, great.
You come up with words I've
never heard you say before.
Yeah.
It's like God gives you
another language to speak.
Yeah.
Eddie was a turn and burn guy.
Now he was a turn and burn
preacher or he responded to
the turn and burn.
That's how Pastor Jack came.
He was also a turning bird,
meaning like what convicted
him was hearing he was a
sinner and was going to hell.
That really appeals to me.
The promise of salvation is
what appealed to me.
So that's my evangelistic style.
Like,
do you know Jesus died for you to be
free?
Don't you want to be free?
If I would have just said
that additional sentence,
next time I'm going to the cafe,
I'm saying that additional sentence.
Do you know that Jesus died
for you to be free?
I was this close,
but I was surrounded by muzzies.
You were too annoyed that he
asked you if you knew what
the meaning of your name was.
No, there was too many people.
I was scared.
Were they covered in their... Yes,
everybody was... All fully garbed.
Fully garbed with free Palestine.
But that's how you used to look.
Yes.
So why is that intimidating?
Because that's your whole... No,
it's intimidating when I'm
trying to preach the gospel
in a room full of people
that could... Snugs.
If I need to remind you,
you did that in a room of 500 people.
Yes, but you were there.
I'm going to take out 500 men.
Cha-cha, cha-cha.
I'll be like Jackie Chan.
Wow.
Carrie says her husband
responded to he heard he'll
be left behind.
That's awesome.
Oh, when I was 10 years old,
I saw the movie Left Behind
at a commune in Washington.
Yes.
Out in the forest.
Actually, near a barn, actually.
on a sheet that was between two trees.
And they had the whole, you know,
the type of... Oh, yeah.
And scared the bejesus out of me.
Scared Jesus into you.
I wish.
It was, what,
40 years later that I became born again.
But I never forgot it.
I never forgot it.
So I think that actually,
you might be right.
It just was one of those...
It wasn't even a mustard seed.
It was actually like a...
Like a pumpkin seed.
It's just stuck there.
Yep.
And at times you choked on it.
Thanks.
Yep.
All right.
We need more than the people.
I see a lot more people watching.
You need to comment,
all of you that are watching,
and say something and say
hi and let us know how long you pray for.
I'm assuming that everybody
else must pray for 40 minutes.
We're the only ones.
Anybody else only pray for a
couple minutes?
But I think I have a lot of
prayers throughout the day.
Yes.
So if I were to put them all together.
Maybe they're 20 minutes.
You might be right.
But I'm getting there.
I'm closer than I was when I
thought that the one-minute
prayer was not enough.
But, yeah, that sounds really daunting.
And I shouldn't because I
should be wanting to talk to him.
Like all that.
I mean, for much longer.
Kelly says, thank you, Kelly.
Thank you.
I feel so much better.
That really just kind of
like worries me that I'm not.
God's going to say,
do you really think that 30
seconds you prayed to me
was doing anything?
But that's a good thing.
It's the fear of the Lord.
That is the beginning of wisdom.
You know, everything,
everything good we do stems from that.
is just wanting to please Him,
wanting to do more.
That's the desire that's the
Holy Spirit in us, motivating us,
pushing us, encouraging us.
All right.
I'm picking up what you're putting down.
Right?
So last night you went to
Calvary Chapel East Anaheim.
Off the hook.
By yourself, because I was busy.
I sang so loud, I was hoarse.
Really?
Yes.
I was screaming those worship songs.
And the Lebanese dude in front of me,
he was screaming too.
So was Debra.
We got the people behind us screaming too.
It was off the hook.
Really?
It was so... Was that the
vibe of the night?
Or was it the music was so
good that everybody just like felt it?
Both.
It was just, you know,
Holy Spirit come down, descend on us,
fill this place.
And we just...
Yeah.
He rocked it.
Were you shaking your hair back and forth?
No, I was just, I felt it.
I felt it.
And Pastor Bob stood up and goes, wow,
was that an amazing time of worship?
Wow.
Yeah.
So Casey was back.
She had had to take last
Sunday off because she ran
a 52 mile marathon, double marathon.
Yeah.
I don't know what would
possess anybody to do that,
but she had a whole little
like beginning prologue
about her run and what it taught her.
Hmm.
Pushing herself beyond what
she thought was possible
and finishing the race.
And then she belted out some good songs.
And she belted out some amazing songs.
Wow.
She is really,
it almost seems like every
weekend just becoming
stronger and stronger and more gifted.
And then the message, what was,
do you recall?
Deuteronomy 11.
Deuteronomy 11?
Yes, because I'm in it now in your Bible,
too.
I'm in Judges.
How are you in Deuteronomy?
I don't know how our books are doing.
I don't know.
I'm very confused by that.
Go ahead.
Just the I put this day
before you blessing and
curses like choose.
Will you follow the way of
blessings or curses?
And he says,
I did not show your children
did not see what I showed you.
And Pastor Bob's explanation
of that was so beautiful.
He's like,
your kids will learn from what
they see of you.
They did not see what you saw.
So he's like,
that's what the Lord was
telling the Israelites.
Like,
you need to have strong faith from
what I have shown you of
goodness in your life.
Don't tell your kids to have
faith because of what you've seen.
Make sure they see something
on their own to give them faith.
You know what I mean?
Like the Israelites of that
older generation have seen,
saw the plagues, the parted sea,
them drowning in the sea,
manna from heaven,
like all of that goodness
they'd seen in their lives, uh,
So similarly to us,
all the goodness we've seen from the Lord,
it says that you can't rely
on that for your children.
You've got to encourage them
to find their own goodness from the Lord.
I was like, oh, that is good, Pastor Bob.
Did he give you some tips on
how to do that?
By living it out?
So in other words,
you're basically living out
the Bible so that your kids
can experience the
spiritual infilling of a
house that's dedicated to the Lord.
Your character that is
patient and kind and
Christ-like and their own
prayer life and encouraging
them to have their own
relationship with the Lord so that they,
like the first generation,
can experience God's goodness.
for themselves.
We were talking about it at home church.
It's the same advice Jack gave us.
It's the same thing that
Joshua said to the Israelites.
Choose this day who you shall serve.
As for me and my house, I serve the Lord.
And so this is what we
proclaim over our homes,
and Pastor Bob brought that up too,
that your house must be
dedicated to the Lord in a
way in which everyone who walks in it,
including your children, feels that.
Not by your words.
You know what I mean?
Not like we do this because
we're Christians.
Right.
But because your actions.
He says you can keep trying
to tell that he's like he
basically telling us not to
be hypocritical.
You can't keep telling your
kids this book is really
important and then do nothing in the book,
you know,
and don't have lives that
reflect the book.
He's like, if it's so important,
why don't you reflect it?
Why aren't you doing anything in it?
Meaning, you know, don't be hypocrites.
Without saying that.
Or he easily could have said,
and don't be a hypocrite.
All right.
It was awesome.
And, yeah.
I was at a lacrosse game.
Everybody asked, where's Andy?
As opposed to me where they're like,
where's your wife?
You they call it by name.
Andy Pandy.
Yeah, I'm sorry I missed it.
It sounds wonderful.
You know, worship's my favorite.
I mean, I do love Pastor Bob,
but I do love,
I cannot be late for worship.
I get stressed out.
I don't like walking in and
the music's already started.
And you know you didn't used
to be that way.
Oh, no, I always did.
Really?
When we first started at Chino,
he used to tell me,
how many songs are they going to do?
No, it's just the stand.
Yeah, I have to be there when it starts.
But three songs is enough.
It's like me with the story time.
I'll give you 90 seconds.
I don't see what I like
about Chopper Chapel East
Anaheim is that she does three songs.
And then she has you sit
down and then you can
choose to sit or stand up again.
That's so much pressure for me.
Oh, no.
I like the standing up again
because it just gives you a little break.
Yeah.
You know what it reminds me of?
You know,
there's like certain things that
just take you back to a
time that you didn't like
or that you loved.
Yes.
Like there's certain smells
that will take you back to, you know.
growing up in your grandma
used to make apple pie or
something like that I wish
but anyways but there's
other things that remind
you of horrible times in your life smells
No,
but standing at attention during the
academy,
they would make us stand there
for a half hour, 45 minutes in the heat.
You must be good at it.
And you got to stand
straight with your thumbs
along your pant lines.
Yeah, I love that.
And your knees slightly bent
so you don't pass out.
I had to catch a couple of
my guys beside me that they
teetered over and I had to help them up.
But they would make you
stand out there for a very,
very long time.
I love that.
um and so standing at church
is fine but I start to have
this memory like with you
because you can't move
anywhere like you can't
walk forward you can't I
kind of walk rock side to
side you do this I love the
rocking side but at some
point I start to have this
like I gotta I'm gonna am I
gonna be here for a half an
hour yeah if I start
laughing get ready am I
gonna have to do push-ups
prepared you for this moment
And you know, this is actually real.
This is the thing that goes in my head.
And then I start feeling
guilty because I said,
Jesus died on the cross and
I can't stand here for three songs.
I really have this idea in my head.
I go, just stand there for another,
you know, who cares?
Make it 10 more songs.
Then I start challenging myself.
Like, forget about it.
Are you praying at any point in there?
No,
you know that I listen to the words
because the words actually
start to touch me and I
start to cry because that's
when I focus again.
That's when I feel guilty
and I tell myself, Andy, knock it off.
Jesus was whipped and had
thorns pushed on his head
and then got crucified.
You need to stand here and focus.
And then I start listening to the words.
See,
now Carrie's not texting because you
told her that everybody
else should text instead.
No, no.
I want Carrie to text.
I'm used to Carrie's feedback.
I'm feeling really awkward right now.
All right.
Because it makes me think to myself, oh,
no, is it really dumb?
Because Carrie's not responding.
No,
Carrie's busy agreeing with me right now.
No,
she thinks that you said that she didn't.
Who made Carrie the gauge of good stories?
You were like,
we need other people to respond.
Okay, listen,
I'm glad Kelly spoke up and
said she too needs to make
her prayers longer.
But is there anybody else
that has a limit on the
number of songs that you're
willing to sing?
stand during worship am I
the only one what is she
says how sweet I was told
crying during worship is a
gift of worship I love that
see see how good I am it's
so true you are good you
are amazing oh my gosh saw
karen at the gym today oh did you yeah
Got a chance.
She really loves our home church.
Oh, I love that.
Yeah.
She told everybody.
She goes, oh, it was awesome.
I love that.
Yay.
I love Kelly.
Kelly's like, yep, three songs is good.
But every church we go to,
Pastor Jack and Pastor Bob,
both of them are four song churches.
And on occasion they go to five.
Yep.
And then we look, come on,
you look at me too when it goes to five.
We both look at each other and go.
Outside the outer limit.
It better be a Brandon Lake
song or something.
Right.
If I'm standing for that fifth song.
Carrie takes a box of Kleenex.
Oh.
Well, when we went to Battle Cry for Zara,
they do worship for about a
good hour and a half.
Yeah, at some point you're like, wow.
But you know that, right?
Yeah, you buckle up.
Buckle up, buttercup.
yeah you're gonna we're
going for it but even we've
gone to concerts and we we
sit down after after after
a while and you can do that
at battle cry too people
sit up they sit down they
start twirling they start
doing weird things oh no
the twirling oh man there's
this lady at uh calvary
chapel uh chino hills and
uh she's she twirls she
moves her arms back and
forth and I and I like I'm
I feel like I'm at, you know,
jujitsu class or something.
I, you know,
when I was belting out these
tunes last night, I was singing.
Were you in the front row?
Second row.
I sat with Debra.
She's a second rower.
I was thinking to myself
that God custom made this for me.
I literally grew up my whole
childhood singing love
songs in my bedroom,
screaming into a hairbrush
microphone or whatever it was.
My mom used to sometimes
knock on the door thinking
like something was seriously wrong,
you know?
If you had a cat,
she was thinking you were killing it.
Yeah, like she was like,
what is happening right now?
But they eventually got used to it.
But I like it is one of my
favorite things in the world to do.
And I was like, Jesus is amazing.
Like all of the depressive
things that we had to do in Islam.
I'm like, in Christ,
we do all these amazing things.
We get to scream out songs
and everybody together.
Oh, Jesus.
Everybody out of tune.
Nobody cares.
Yeah.
On Sunday,
we have that guy next to us
sometimes that he's good for a amen.
I like those people.
And he sings pretty loud, too.
Yes.
He's a pretty loud singer.
Sorry, I yelled on the mic every pull.
Yeah, that was a little recoil there.
Kelly says,
I can listen to Passion
Conference songs for a long time.
Oh, I don't know what that is.
Passion Conference.
Is that the name of a band or a group?
I think it's a conference,
the Passion Conference.
Is that the one where they
went on and on for two weeks?
I have no idea.
Kelly, what is that?
I feel like we should know that.
Yeah, she's going to send us a link.
It sounds like one of those things that,
like, how do you guys not know that?
You guys do a Christian podcast.
You should know this.
Speaking of in the latest
developments of the,
of the Driscoll Lindell fight.
Oh, still going on.
Oh yes.
Wait, what?
Oh yes.
I'm just, so I was looking up.
So when I, before I met Andy,
I went to Trinity and,
to meet Pastor Driscoll and
I sent an email to the church.
And so I have a direct email
address at the church.
And I meant to do that today and I forgot,
but I wanted to send a word
of encouragement.
You know, my, me and my husband came out,
we love you.
We do this podcast and stay strong.
And because Lindell went to
the church that he runs, you know,
on Wednesday night and put
out a public call to
Driscoll to repent and
Wait, what?
Yes.
And after he stayed there
and came back out on stage with him,
wasn't that enough repentance?
History on it.
He came back and said,
you better repent for
trying to divide this church.
And I, oh my God,
when I watched this video,
I thought I was going to
pull my hair out.
I was like, how dare you?
I was so angry.
I was so,
I'm like so crazed over this thing,
you know?
No response yet from Driscoll,
and I have a feeling he's
going to be a gentleman about it.
He's not going to do it.
Did you watch the Wednesday
service for Driscoll?
I think so.
Didn't we watch together?
I felt like he made some...
Because he didn't say
anything even on the Sunday service.
Right.
Just the whole congregation
gave him a standing ovation.
And he knew why.
But he didn't say a word.
He didn't say a word about it.
Wednesday,
I thought he got a little
emotional at the beginning, saying,
you know, I really appreciate you guys,
you know, your support.
I felt that there was something there.
Again,
another one of those things that
only if you knew what was
going on that you knew it
had to do with that.
Yeah.
That is amazing.
How did somebody do that?
Wasn't that enough?
Oh, my God.
Wasn't that enough that he
came back out on stage?
It chokes me up.
Oh, it was so hard to watch.
Yeah,
Kerry says Lindell's doing damage
control.
But it's so obnoxious.
It is so... He just could
have left it alone.
Yeah, just move on, bro.
Yeah.
it was so irritating it was
so irritating and knowing
driscoll and that temporary
his I don't I don't even I
don't even know what he's
doing now I don't I don't
know how he stays sane he's
pacing right now he's
pacing yeah for the past
four days he's gotta be
like I can't I can't do
nothing I can't and all of
his sons and his
sons-in-law are like dad
just just take it take a
beat just leave it alone
anyway I can't I can't
leave this alone I can't
imagine we will see wow
And Carrie says,
I think your school's right
to call it out.
Absolutely.
I mean, I understand his graciousness.
Me and Carrie were talking
about this by text earlier today.
I get the graciousness that
they're old time friends.
And for him to be like, look,
I should have come to you
as a brother and said
something and not like
blindsided you with it.
But nonetheless, it was...
Totally within his right.
He was called up there to
speak about devils.
He was called up to speak
about the Jezebel spirit and Elijah.
So.
Wow.
It's just wild.
Maria's like, yeah,
Lindell needs to repent for his dancer.
No, he doubled down.
I encourage you to listen to
the Wednesday night service
at James River church.
Like he doubled down.
So then he starts talking about how.
Majella is a born-again
Christian with a family of children.
Majella puts out a statement,
an op-ed in the Christian Post, who says,
no, I'm not.
I'm an Orthodox Christian.
I have a wife.
I have no kids.
I'm not born again.
Whoa.
Yeah.
What is going on?
Craziness.
Absolute craziness.
I've had enough.
I've had enough of this.
Well, did you see the picture that,
what's her face, Candace put out?
No.
Walking on the checkered
floor in the Catholic church?
Next to a pope?
Next to a bishop?
No.
You should look at Kenneth Owens.
I can't take these people.
Yeah,
there's a whole other layer of that
coming out, too.
Kerry says that Lindell even
attacked Driscoll's past difficulty.
Yeah.
I want to call him a name.
Yeah.
What a jerk.
I thought we'd put it up.
Just real quick,
before we go into our
40-minute prayer time,
does anybody have any prayer requests?
Because we didn't mention
that at the beginning.
Let us know if you have any
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Do I have a banner that says that?
No.
I need to make one.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's unbelievable.
You know what?
When...
I don't know that I've ever
heard this pastor just Lindell before.
I don't know if he's been
any of the men's
conferences that I've been at, but I had,
I didn't have a,
a warm feeling when him and
Driscoll were talking on stage.
I didn't get that.
He was.
Seems like weird.
Reminds me of the other church.
I don't want to call out now
because it's just rude, but
Yeah, he seems weird.
His theology is weird.
Like just pulling,
like don't touch God's anointed.
Bro, who do you think you are?
Like get over yourself.
It's just obnoxious.
But you would have thought
he had at least enough, enough,
I don't know, enough God in him,
enough Holy Spirit that
would have stopped him.
It's too much flesh.
Ego.
What brought the downfall of Lucifer?
Yeah.
Pride.
Wow, so sad.
It is super sad.
Especially what also breaks
my heart is they've been
friends for decades.
That hurts.
You know, that they just,
there wasn't enough social equity there,
enough spiritual equity to be like,
let's just get past this.
And we thought that
reconciliation of them
getting back on stage,
Mark swallowed his pride,
would have been enough that
we would have been moved on.
I was so...
i was so proud of mark for
doing that because I don't
know that I would have done
that right and like listen
I'm pretty sure you did it
and you're going down I
don't say I'm done I'm
pretty sure I could not
have he took the high road
he was just swallowed his pride and
Now I'm getting a little bit angry.
It made me furious today.
Wow.
So here's asking.
Ego for sure.
Yep.
And we know her prayer
request and ego for sure.
What is that?
Oh, do dead.
Okay.
All right.
Ready to go.
Yeah.
You ready?
Prayer warrior.
Yeah.
It's been a busy day.
Yeah.
Thank you, Lord.
Thank you for this time of fellowship,
Lord.
Thank you for bringing us
into the family of believers.
Thank you for making us part
of the body of Christ,
the royal priesthood.
Thank you that the Ark of the Covenant,
the Holy of Holies is within us.
It's no longer carried in a
piece of wood across a floor in a temple,
but we are that temple now.
And may we honor the fact
that we are that temple and
that may we take care of
our bodies and offer
ourselves as a living
sacrifice and respect that
you dwell in this temple.
Thank you, Lord,
for that absolutely extraordinary gift.
And for those of our family
members and loved ones and
neighbors and friends
community members that do not yet know you,
Lord, that have not experienced that gift,
we ask that you send your
spirit to them as well,
that you send their spirit
to their dreams, in their quiet time,
whatever it may be, Lord,
or even if it's through
fire and brimstone, the fear of hell,
Lord,
that they come closer to you and
that they find
Saving Faith Lord.
We ask for healing and
recovery for my dear friend
that is suffering from
cancer recovery and also
from a cataract surgery.
Also, Eddie and Carrie,
as Carrie prepares for her eye surgery,
and Eddie continues his healing.
We always pray for Kate and
her niece and her other physical ailments,
Lord,
and our friend Chuck and his healing
and all of our friends, Lord,
that suffer from one
condition or another.
We ask for complete
restoration and for our families.
I know Maria always has a
heart for her family and
hopes for reconciliation.
We pray that for all of our loved ones,
Lord, that are far from us,
that you would bring
reconciliation and love and
peace in our homes and with
our families and neighbors and loved ones,
Lord.
We love you.
Thank you for all that you
do in and through us.
Thank you that you continue to use us,
Lord.
It's in the mighty name of
Jesus that we ask all things.
Amen.
All right, my friends.
We love you guys.
God bless.
Bye.