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I knew you before I formed
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That's really bad when God tells you that.
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I've known you since before
I formed you or get away from me.
I never knew you.
Never knew you.
So you want to make sure
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A little Bible humor.
I'm full of it.
I mean, full of stuff.
Love it.
That was funny, too.
All right.
So the title for this one is very long.
It's A.W.
Toja for the Christian Leader, April 11th.
And the title is O. O.H.
Exclamation point.
Jeremiah 1.6 is A.W.
's reference.
It says, Then said I, Ah, Lord God, behold,
I cannot speak, for I am a child.
For I am a child.
Explain that one.
I will.
Okay.
Later.
Okay.
AW says to be articulate at certain times,
we are compelled.
Sorry.
Let me start that all over again.
Why?
Because I didn't, I didn't do it right.
To be articulate at certain times,
we are compelled to fall back upon O,
or O, which is just O, exclamation point.
A primitive exclamatory
sound that is hardly a word at all,
and that scarcely admits of a definition.
In theology, there is no O,
and this is a significant,
if not anonymous thing.
Theology seeks to reduce
what may be known of God to
intellectual terms,
and as long as the
intellect can comprehend,
it can find words to express itself.
When God himself appears before the mind,
awesome, vast, and incomprehensible,
then the mind sinks into
silence and the heart cries out,
O Lord God!
There is the difference
between theology knowledge
and spiritual experience,
the difference between
knowing God by hearsay and
knowing him by acquaintance.
And the difference is not verbal merely,
it is really the serious and vital.
We Christians should watch
lest we lose the O from our hearts.
When we become too glib in prayer,
we are most surely talking to ourselves.
When the calm listing of
requests and the courteous
giving of proper thanks
take the place of the
burden prayer that finds
utterance difficult,
we should beware the next step.
For our direction is surely
down whether we know it or not.
Lord, don't ever let me lose the, oh,
amen.
Oh.
So I've got something.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
So Pastor Jack Hibbs today
put out a podcast, Fasting and Prayer.
I don't know if I'd say it's
different than Tozer's opinion, but, um,
my understanding of what
Jack was saying was that, um,
first of all,
he emphasized that you could
pray anywhere.
Um,
and prayer is what is important about
prayer based on biblical references, um,
from Jesus also not to pray
with rogue memorization,
not to say the same thing
over and over again.
And, um,
is that it's important for
it to be a conversation with God.
And he says,
even if you're praying over a meal,
if you're like, thank you, Lord,
for this food, may it bless my body.
Thank you for the people who prepared it.
He's like, if you say those words,
but in your heart, you mean,
thank you for the ability
to put food on the table.
Thank you for this home that protects us.
Thank you for the provision
you give without measure.
If there is so much more in your heart
then the words that you've
uttered then you're in a
conversation with god
that's prayer it doesn't
matter it's not so
important what words come
out but the posture of your heart
And I love that because for those of us,
we had this conversation a
couple of days ago.
We're like, oh,
we're not so good about the
whole prayer closet and go
to the secret place and spend hours.
But we like to be in
conversation with God.
Pastor Jack was really kind
of advocating that today.
And I love this one little pithy saying.
He's like,
if you fast from food without prayer,
you're just dieting.
he's like that's not prayer
if you do if you fast
without prayer that's a diet
Fast without prayer, that's a diet.
That is so good.
Isn't it cute?
So it's just kind of like
you have to be fasting to
seek God and not because
you intend to change God's mind,
but you are struggling to
hear from God or you want
to give thanks for
something or you're
expecting and you need God
to move in a certain way,
but not because you expect
to manipulate him by fasting.
Like that God intends to do
X and you think you're
going to fast and pray
until he does Y. That's
kind of a prosperity preacher thing.
But he's like, don't do that.
That should not be your intention.
Your intention is to seek
God's will for your life through fasting.
And he's like,
and if you're not praying
and you're not doing it
with a sincere heart,
you're just dieting.
That is really good.
Isn't it?
That's what I got.
Wow.
I like this sentence here that says,
there is the difference
between theological
knowledge and spiritual experience,
the difference between
knowing God by hearsay and
knowing him by acquaintance.
Exactly.
And that's kind of how I
lived my Christian life for
20 some odd years.
was that I was just, it was just hearsay.
Especially that part.
Yeah.
I want God by hearsay.
This is what they describe of God.
This is because they were a pastor.
I was assuming what they
were telling me was enough.
Right.
They go, yeah, God, Jesus.
I heard.
This Jesus guy is a pretty cool dude.
Every so often they would
have a guest speaker.
And I go,
that's really cool to get your
perspective too.
Yeah.
I can live with that.
I can live with that perspective.
Yeah, I really... Now, again,
I want to say this, and it sounds so bad,
but I don't recall ever really... Now,
I'm sure somebody said you
need to have a relationship.
A relationship with Jesus.
It's become a cliche.
But I don't know if I was
really told what that meant.
Yeah.
You can have a relationship
with the... When you're calling to get...
something straightened out
in your insurance policy
and you're calling somebody
that's in Alabama.
You can, in that short period of time,
you know,
I was weather over there in Alabama,
you know, you have any kids?
Oh yeah, I have some kids.
And you end up having this, this,
you can have a relationship, but you,
But it's just this- That's
not a relationship,
that's a conversation.
This conversation or this hearsay,
but it's a very shallow relationship.
There's no girth to that
kind of relationship.
Well,
it's kind of like what he says
towards you.
You have this calm list of
requests and you have this
courteous way of giving thanks.
Thank you, Lord,
for food and for my health.
And I'd like to go to
Acapulco for vacation and-
you know what I mean like
you're running through this
list as as if you're
talking to the salesperson
or customer service
representative yeah but it
really is I mean a huge
difference for those of you
that are still just trying
to get there is that when
you when you really have
that relationship with with
god you do depend on him being there
I mean,
because you're praying for them and
you're praying to him and
giving him thanks.
But it's different just to
say thanks to the person
that helps you at Starbucks
as opposed to really giving
thanks for it.
Man, God, this day was amazing.
that I have this opportunity
to spend it with this great
family that I have,
that we live in the United
States of America in this place.
I mean, this is all thanks to you.
Everything that I have is because of God.
When you truly understand that,
now that is an intimate
relationship with the God of creation,
the God of everything of this,
of our existence.
And Carrie's asking you, Andy,
how do you know how it
changed from hearing to knowing?
um well first I mean I think
what I mean I'd hate to say
this because I don't want
everybody to believe that
you have to have this the
the same experience where
jesus is standing in front
of you and appears and says
yeah but after that it
could have been done and
dusted like what happened
after that then the
continuous connect the
continuous connection the
the wanting to grow and
actually growing with each
day the relationship grew each day
Kind of like when I first met you in line,
that was great.
You know,
you get the tingles and everybody
around you goes, I mean,
I saw the couple the other
day when I went to Calvary Chapel that we,
that were in line that I
was meeting and they go, Andy,
how are you?
And I go, people,
because I warble with names.
But yeah,
we got married and I went through
the whole thing and they go, we knew,
we knew at the moment we saw you.
But the relationship,
and just to answer Carrie's question,
is that then we got to know each other.
Then we got married,
and then we began to live together.
Then we began to go through trials.
Then we began to have challenges.
But out of those challenges,
even when we didn't maybe see eye to eye,
Our relationship didn't grow apart.
It grew closer.
Right.
You know,
once we figured it all out and it
continues to grow closer.
But there's a there's
definitely a feeling that
is like no other that I've
had in my entire life with
you and with God.
Oh,
because it's just it's something that
now.
It's just a part of my life.
I think about them daily.
I think about it all the time.
Every time I do something,
I think about how did that
affect my relationship with God?
If we had to make a bullet list, I think,
okay,
so it's the frequency of the
communication to the
nearness of the communication, right?
Yep.
That it's conversational, right?
Because I know when I first met you,
when we used to talk about
hearing from God,
that was not common for you.
Yeah, you're like,
what are you talking about?
Hear from God.
You had a similar reaction
to when I first was told, you know,
sit and listen for God to respond.
And I'm like,
I don't have no context for
what you're saying to me right now.
And so it becomes conversational.
This is what Tozer is talking about,
is that our relationships with God,
our relationship with God
should become like our closest relative,
our lover, our spouse, right?
Where you're drawing closer,
you're communicating, you're hearing,
you're talking, he's talking,
you're talking, he's talking.
You know, it's lovely.
Yeah.
And then you want to continue to learn.
You don't want to stop learning.
One of the things I talked
about with my dog trainers
and as they began to get in the business,
and again,
you got to understand I did
this for 40 years,
is that in my 30th year,
when I was still teaching
people how to be dog trainers,
is that even after 30 years,
there's still more to be learned.
I want to know more.
There's some people that can
get to a place and they go,
I know it all.
There's no point in a
relationship where we're done growing,
I don't think.
So that goes with God and it goes with us.
We always want to grow in
our relationship.
What more can we do to make
our relationship better?
For sure.
And I think that's definitely with God.
When I'm listening to pastors now,
I'm listening to learn how
what whatever the pastor's
talking about how that I
could use that in my life
how I can make my uh
relationship with god
stronger before it used to
be I just listened to the
message to oh that was a
good message like uh it was
intellectual yeah it's like
watching a tv show yeah
like oh that was a good tv show yay
That was a good message.
Yeah.
It's a good analogy because
it's not meant to change
you when you're just watching TV.
And that's another
discernible difference is
you feel changed.
Yes.
You feel this constant
transformation occurring.
Like you're different than
you were last month.
You're different than the
month before that.
You're changing in ways that
are only attributable to God.
Yes, absolutely.
Right on.
Hope that answers your question, Carrie.
Yes.
You know, it's interesting.
I don't know if anybody who
are following this thing
that I'm involved in with
Togo's and Yorba Linda Mom's group,
which is a private group.
But something happened in
the private group and
the people that own the
Togo's were being attacked
in this private group,
essentially a 5,000 people,
not like of 10,
like a 5,000 community members.
And, you know,
you have this company or
this is a small business
that's owned by a family.
That's not knowing what's
going on in this thing.
And so some other members,
cause it's your upliftment of moms.
I'm not a mom sent me the
screenshots and said,
you see what's happening here.
Maybe you could talk about it.
And so I talked about it and
people are saying,
what kind of Christian
attacks a mom and her daughter?
I go,
I don't know where you're getting the
attack part.
The family of this small
business was being attacked
privately in a group of
5,000 moms who make lunch
and dinner decisions,
which if this business
loses 10% of their business,
they may not be able to stay open.
I mean,
that's how the margins are so narrow.
And essentially what
happened is the daughter of
this mom got her hours
reduced because of the fire, just reduced,
reduced initially.
We don't know if she still
works there or not.
It's unclear.
But the daughter got her
hours reduced from 20 hours a week to,
I think,
cut in half because the company
can't afford the $20 an
hour that Gavin Newsom has
forced all these small
businesses other than Panera Bread.
to take on.
And so it's just like, wow.
And she's going to sue this
company for reducing.
Well, she says,
can you tell me how you got here?
Because the question is that
they're questioning my Christianity.
Oh, okay.
For doing this.
Okay.
I like how you get to the point.
Yeah,
because we're on this very important
point.
We have all these comments
that go back to that point.
Before we go on to the side tracker.
No, but I mean, I pray about these things.
I think about these things.
I don't just jump on like instantaneously.
These things take a little
time to percolate.
And I said, so what's more important?
The slander of this company
that does not know that
it's happening in a private group.
Or making it well known
what's happening so that
they have a chance to say, wait a minute,
we just couldn't afford a bear.
That's all there is.
Like we're not,
we love her or whatever they wanna say.
And so is it more Christian
to protect this family from
losing their business and say, here,
I just wanna bring this out
in the open so people can
see it and you make your decision.
Or am I not Christian
because I brought it to
everybody's attention?
I don't know.
I got to tell you some things.
It's just,
there's nothing to do with Jesus.
I know.
That's what, that's what their attack is.
Yeah.
Because I mean, I, I mean,
you should always behave
with a character that is Christ-like.
You shouldn't be rude or vulgar.
You shouldn't be demeaning.
I wasn't vulgar.
I might've been demeaning.
Only to the mom.
It's just ridiculous.
You can't fault this company.
I call it company.
The small business that
simply couldn't afford a payer.
That's all there was.
So what did you say that was
demeaning about her?
I might have.
Called her Nimwood or whatever.
Yeah, my favorite word.
Nitwit.
It just comes out.
What if you later find out
that that's your seatmate at church?
How will you feel?
I don't care.
We'll talk about it.
I'll say really,
did you think that this
company should go under
just to keep your daughter?
But do you think, no,
but do you think that you
needed to insult her to make the point?
No, it just comes out.
I asked for God's forgiveness.
Did you?
Yes.
I said, help me be stronger.
Help me be better.
And then somebody caught me.
I did a live today and it
was somebody in the comment who,
said it for me.
And I said, see, I'm not the one.
That was a comment.
I felt better about it.
So you didn't say nitwit.
I did in the original one,
but not in the one today.
But I mean, that's the whole thing.
I mean, at some point, do you protect?
Do you help?
That gets called into question.
And again,
I prayed about it and I thought
it was necessary to make it known.
But you're not gonna blame
Jesus for doing it inappropriately.
No, I never blame Jesus.
Today I said, hey, it was my flesh.
It was our flesh to attack Blue Spoon.
Blue Spoon?
Is that the name of the ice cream company?
Yeah,
Andy tried to destroy a local business.
not I did nothing he's
protecting me I did not
other people other people
and I was I'm in the group
that did it but I and I but
then we thought about it
right and I talked about
that today on the thing and
I said uh we uh you know
calmed down got out of our
flesh and then went
immediately over to blue
spoon and bought a bunch of
ice cream in support of
their charity togo drive
And I'm going to go to Togo's.
I tried to go there today, but their,
their toilets were not working.
Apparently.
Is this interesting to any of you guys?
But I think it is.
I mean, I think I listen,
everybody who watches can
have those incidents where
do I speak up or not?
If I speak up,
somebody is going to be offended.
Um,
We have to defend people sometimes.
I mean,
where do we go when we feel like we
need to defend somebody?
Yeah, let me give you it from Carrie.
Yeah.
Pastor Jack said, don't be rude.
Ask for words from the Lord
first because we cause
unbelievers to judge God by our behavior.
Glorify Christ for they will
then glorify because they will...
praise your father in heaven
based on how our character is perceived.
So I don't think there's a
problem standing up for anybody.
And you know that because
the role model that we
follow as our teachers is
Pastor Jack and Pastor Bob.
Both of them are wonderful,
as far as we see,
wonderful human beings and
can be very critical.
Pastor Jack can be very critical of stuff,
but he doesn't insult people to do that.
I mean, for the most part.
I just don't think you need
to insult people.
What about Pastor Driscoll?
He's a little more insulting.
I'm a little more in line
with Pastor Driscoll, apparently.
I love Pastor Jack, and I learned from him,
and he's
father figure,
even though he's only three
years older than me.
But I tend to be a little
bit more like Pastor Mark.
It's just the way it is.
Let's see what Kate has to say.
We grow closer in trials and conflicts.
Our trust and relationship
grows as we learn to listen
and know that he is there
through the good, the bad,
and the ugly parts of life.
Amen.
Cindy wants prayer for traveling mercies.
She's leaving on Sunday.
And Kate says, Carrie,
the Bible says it too.
Yes.
So there you have it.
Should we go to the scripture?
Yes.
You want to speak more about Tobias first?
Yeah, I have more to say about Tobias.
Okay.
No, just kidding.
All right, here we go.
And we're reading what?
So we're in Jeremiah 1.4,
and this is a very famous
passage of scripture about
our identities and how God
knows us since the beginning of time,
before time.
And so I'm going to just start at verse 4.
Then the word of the Lord
came to me saying,
before I formed you in the womb,
I knew you.
Before you were born, I sanctified you.
I ordained you a prophet to the nations.
Then said I, Jeremy responds, oh, Lord God,
behold,
I cannot speak for I am but a youth.
And the Lord said to me,
do not say I am a youth for
who shall go for you shall
go to all to whom I send you.
And whatever I command you,
you shall speak.
Don't be afraid of their
faces for I am with you to deliver you,
says the Lord.
Then the Lord put forth his
hand and touched my mouth.
And the Lord said to me, behold,
I have put my words in your mouth.
See,
I have this day set you over the
nations and over the
kingdoms to root out and to pull down,
to destroy and to throw down,
to build and to plant.
Amen.
Can you imagine?
It's not even a burning bush.
Can you imagine?
You're literally Jeremiah.
You're this kind of average guy,
but you're holy.
And you hear the voice of God saying,
I knew you before time.
I formed you in your mother's womb.
You're going to go to people and speak.
And your response is, uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
I'm not going.
I mean, like,
literally every prophet said that.
Gideon said it.
Moses said it.
David said it.
They're like, no, no, no, no.
You just got the wrong guy.
Like,
how do you hear the booming voice of God?
And that's your reaction.
Isn't that nuts?
No.
I find it nuts.
I just don't.
I can't imagine.
I mean, I want to say it's nuts, too.
I want to say that.
But I didn't even get a speech out of God.
I got the audible voice of
Christ telling me, Hetia, it's me.
And that was it.
That's why I think that you
were so amazing at your
dad's service where you or God said,
go stand up in front of a
bunch of Muslims and tell
them about Jesus.
And, but did you feel,
but do you remember what
happened before you went up?
I was afraid.
Yes.
And you said, I don't think I can do this.
Yeah.
It's very similar.
I don't know.
They audibly heard the voice of God.
I'm saying like when I
audibly heard him for me to
turn around and be like, huh?
What do you mean?
It's me.
Me who?
What is me?
I don't know.
I just find it.
I just find it wild.
Hmm.
Like,
what do you think the audible voice
of God coming down sounds like?
Like I heard, I don't know.
I envision it far more
dramatic than my experience.
I think it's the same.
Whether you hear it in your,
if he whispers it to it in
a still calm voice or says it out loud,
it's still him telling you,
get your butt up on that
stage and tell those
Muslims about Jesus Christ, about me.
no okay what do you guys
think you go what I can't I
can't listen I was sitting
behind her you can do this
you can do this um I had
the same thing when they
asked me to pray at the
school board meeting that
day when the when all the
devil the devils the devils
were in the room ah
Arrest him.
And they wanted me arrested
for praying at a school board meeting.
They did point at the police.
And I there was that moment
where I almost said no.
And I actually I think I did say no.
And something, you know, just well,
it was God just said he
pulled me up by my shirt and said,
stand up and start praying.
You heathen.
And I did.
But it's, yeah,
I don't know that it's that
much different,
whether it's audible or in your head,
if he whispers it into your soul,
into your being.
I think that's more intimate.
I don't know.
That he says, hey, yeah.
But he was saying it.
He's like, I have anointed you,
my servant.
Go preach to the world.
You will put up and tear down.
Read Carrie's message.
I know,
but she's saying the still small voice,
but it wasn't a still small voice.
Oh,
you're saying that's what you think
Jeremiah heard when he says
the voice of the Lord came to me?
You think Jeremiah heard a
still small voice?
I imagine it's loud, booming voice.
Loud.
If it was still and small,
then I understand.
If it was like a whisper, hey, Jeremiah.
That's how it was with Saul
because he kept thinking it
was Samuel that was talking
to him and it was actually God saying,
Saul, Saul.
And he's like, what?
And then Samuel was saying,
and then Samuel goes home,
go back and tell him, speak, Lord,
your servant is listening
because he kept thinking it
was coming from another room.
So that I get.
I think the worst one for me
recently that I read
is I think it's the end of
deuteronomy uh about when
moses is dying they're
gonna be dead and he goes
up on the mountain oh right
and uh god says you see
that land over there that's
the land that I promised
you you're not going
think about all of what I've
read about what moses he
put moses through like you
need to go tell these
people you know how to
build this you need to tell
these people how to uh you
know give me a sacrifice
and it's got to be all
these he put moses through
the ringer yeah hey come up
climb this mountain
You're not done.
You're 120, something like that,
120 years old.
Climbed this mountain.
They said he was still spry
and still able to move pretty quickly,
but he was old.
And he climbs up this mountain and he says,
see that over there?
That's the land that I promised you,
but you're not going to be there.
Farfing Nugent.
Okay, God.
All right.
Take me.
But then he gets to go to heaven with him.
What's better?
Going to go into that dust filled.
Well,
I guess it was land of milk and honey.
And he gets to come back.
Came back to the mountain of
configuration.
Oh, my gosh.
So Kate references the Bible
story about the two brothers.
One saying he would not go and he didn't.
And the other brother who
said no and then he went.
It's the parable of the two
sons from Matthew 21.
Similar example.
And Carrie's saying about Moses,
obviously our works don't count.
It's a good example of that.
Yeah.
Or, and like to that point,
it's an example of how you never know.
I always tell this to
Muslims because they say, oh, you know,
I'll get there.
God will forgive me.
And I'm like,
how could you imagine that
he's going to put your,
because Islam is very
specific about your sins
and your good deeds will be
put on a scale and your
good deeds have to be heavier, right?
I mean, I used to brag my brain over that,
thinking to myself, how,
how would I know if it's heavier?
Like there are these really
bad things that I could have done.
Like God's like that,
that I draw the line at that.
Like with Moses and the rock,
out of all the things Moses did,
did he know that what would
be the one thing that
wouldn't let him cross over
is hitting a rock?
Like if he had to put this
stuff on a scale,
he would think he's for
sure in the clear.
Right.
So it's just it was so
blessed that God is not
putting our needs on a scale.
Why do you want to follow a
God that tells you your
deeds are on a scale?
You don't want that.
Really quick,
just something came to me
before we read Dave's comment there.
How many people were at your
dad's service?
About 300.
In the Islamic Center.
300?
300.
We're in the Islamic Center, 300.
There were maybe 10 to 15 Christians there,
do you think?
10.
Oh, count us?
Three?
Two?
Yeah, three.
Two and a half.
Sorry, it was half in, half out then.
So that message was so strong that you,
I mean,
it came to you days before because
you already knew what you
were going to say.
But then you hesitated for a
second just in your seat.
And then the voice again was
strong to go up there and do it.
And you got strength to do it,
which I don't know that I
would have done it.
I don't think I would have
been strong enough to do it.
Even though you were like, oh,
you can do it.
Yeah, because you are doing it.
Come on, pumpkin.
I believe in you.
You got this.
I think in the end I would have done it.
But still, I mean, it was like, I mean,
everybody was dressed in this black.
And it looked like what I
see on TV when they're
getting ready to hang somebody.
They're in Persia.
Persia.
Oh, my goodness.
I mean, literally.
It was scary.
It was a scary room.
But my thought was,
I just wish that we somehow could know.
And we'll find out when
we're up there with him.
He'll say,
do you know out of those 300 people,
You know, 20,
you planted the seeds with
all of them in 20 of them,
it grew and they became
born again Christians when that, I mean,
just,
just to understand what that was all
about.
That would have been beautiful.
I did hear from a number of people,
even a couple of weeks ago,
I told you I called one of
my mom's doctors who was
Jewish and asking about my
mom's health care and stuff.
And then he said to me, he's like,
I got to tell you,
I'm really proud of you.
What you did that night was unbelievable.
Yeah.
And he's like,
Islam is a terrible religion.
He's like,
and you had the guts to stand up
there basically and say, this sucks.
What's wrong with you people?
Why?
Why do you want to do this?
You're going to come back in
a few days or another year
and you're going to be
begging God to take my dad
to heaven because you don't know.
None of you know where you're going.
And you're going to keep
doing this over and over and over again.
And you just will never know.
I know I'm going to heaven.
Right.
I'm going to visit.
I'm going...
I'm going to be right there with them.
Amen.
If they just understood.
So what's Dave saying?
Dave's saying none of us
wants to hear God speak
like he did when he
responded to Job saying,
why was I even born?
Yeah,
that's a long tirade God does to Job.
Where were you when I formed the earth?
Sounds like me talking to the kids.
Right?
I did all this.
I did this.
Well,
also... You guys couldn't even wash
your dishes.
Right?
Sorry,
I just want to make sure Zara got home.
Job.
Wow, that guy went through some stuff,
did he?
Dave?
Job, right?
So,
I want to know a little bit more about
what you guys... How you
guys felt about Moses being
told that he was never going to go home.
land am I the only one who
was like I almost started
crying and they're in
starbucks reading these
little tears coming to my
eyes I go wait a minute he
doesn't even get like to
put his foot like on the no
on the land for a second
through all the noise of
the great wind the rocks
being broken apart the
earthquake and the fire a
still small voice could be heard
Aha, still small voice.
That's beautiful.
Thank you.
Exodus 3, 2.
So good.
Sorry,
I was saying her Uber driver is a
little suspicious.
Yeah.
So I'm just watching her.
Ask her to send me the pin.
Good.
Got to do that.
Anything else?
A lot of people get mad at
me for letting her Uber, but I'm like,
you know, if you're with my daughter...
I'm a little bit torn that
the Uber driver may be
safer than her driving.
It's really an unnerving experience.
I got to say,
I really see my life flash
before my eyes almost every
time I get in the car.
So Cindy says,
last week I read that in Job in church.
I preach God is God and we are not.
I love that.
Yay.
She says, yo,
keep talking about what I've
been preaching on.
It's that Holy Spirit radio, Cindy.
That happens to us in church all the time.
We're like, doo, doo, doo, doo.
There's that verse again.
What kind of happened to you?
We don't need to go into detail,
but you kind of had that same thing today,
reading a devotional.
This happens to me often, too,
reading a devotional.
And you read the words, and then you go.
Sometimes you think,
I wonder if that means
something to me personally,
this particular message.
Or you think you read it, and you go, oh,
that's really keen.
And then the phone rings, and you go,
and in the end,
that was what I read in my devotion.
These things are so awesome
when they happen.
Yes.
Those are those little signs
that we always talk about
that where God just gives
you this little there you go.
There I am.
Just want to make sure you
now that you got me,
I'm going to share with you
a little bit more often about, you know,
you know,
those things that you need to
know that I'm I'm here with you every day,
every second of every day.
Oh, Carrie makes a good point.
Felt bad for Moses,
but no word of him complaining, is there?
nope no there wasn't he just
died you're not gonna see
it and then moses went and
died well and maybe there's
this and I wonder
So it's a little confusing
for me where people went when they died.
Like, so this place called Shul, right?
And there was a good Shul
and a bad Shul where people
are waiting for death,
waiting for the afterlife, for judgment.
And it says,
they said Jesus went down to
Hades in the three days,
took the keys from Shul, from Hades,
and then came back.
They're saying, like,
did he go and rescue all of
the prophets and bring them
up to the third heaven?
But just that whole concept of, like,
what did Moses think?
Where did he think he was going?
Was he sure he was going to be with God?
Or did he think he was
waiting for the scales and the judgment?
No.
I mean...
I don't know.
What is the Jewish belief?
Honestly, I don't,
I don't know what their view,
what the traditional Jewish
view is of what happens to
you in the afterlife.
I think it's the chosen people.
It's like a carpool lane straight to God,
but I don't know.
I wonder.
Maybe there still needs to
be a little bit of concern, you know,
That you may not get there.
I mean, that's why you continue to go.
I mean,
that's why you continue to follow
what God tells you to do.
Right.
Because there is that thought that,
you know, if I miss this appointment,
I may not get hired.
Oh, I couldn't stand living like that.
After leaving Islam, I would never,
I could not deal in that
relationship with God anymore.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just get the feeling that
Moses knew that he was,
That he was good?
That he was good.
I mean, he had to do,
there was a lot of stuff.
Right.
I mean, there's an incredible amount of,
he just did it.
Like he was told and then he
would just do it.
There was never he argued and said,
I'm not going to do this today.
I'm tired.
I didn't read that.
Right.
As far as I remember, that God said, okay,
you need to go to your
people and tell them all this list.
And he laid out a list of things.
I don't remember Moses saying, not today.
I'm tired.
Aaron, you go do it.
You built that orange calf.
You have a lot of making up to do.
You go do.
Delegate.
Yeah.
Well, no, no, honestly, no, he did.
Yeah.
There was too much to do.
Yeah.
And they called the heads of
the tribe council.
Then God created the
councils for him to carry
some of the burden because
he was doing it all by
himself and he was a little exhausted.
God recognized it was
exhausted or Moses said,
I'm a little tired.
I can't do it today.
I don't know the exact words.
I don't remember the exact scripture,
but somebody knew it was a
little too much for him to do on his own.
Like as a boss with some of my employees,
there were days that I would go in there,
you know, you just, this little,
I'll get you some help.
You just know that what they
have to do is just beyond
what it is they can do.
Anybody remember was, did Moses complain?
And that's when God created
the tribal councils.
And did he ask for helpers
or was it on God's prompting?
I'm just curious.
Cause I can see,
but most of us didn't have
a problem complaining a
little bit of a complainer.
Um, Carrie says, uh,
thought shul and Hades were
the same and Abraham's
bosom was for good people
until Jesus came for them.
Honestly, I, I would ever, um,
I just recall that it's not
as clear cut as that maybe, that it was,
where Abraham's bosom is,
is not entirely clear.
Is it a section of Shul, Hades?
Or is it a completely different location?
Because from my
understanding of the
commentaries that I've read,
it's not heaven.
So where exactly is it?
Like Abraham's bosom, where is that?
Oh,
so Cindy saying it was sadly confusing
to me as a Jew,
lots of worried to be good enough.
Moses has lots of close
communication with God and
trusted God about it, even unto death.
And Kiersey, they're both in the earth,
in the earth, like in the earth's core.
Or like at the edge of New
York City where you go.
In the molten lava.
Molten?
Molten.
That sounded weird.
It came out of my mouth.
Yeah, I think it's in the molten hot lava.
But then where's Abraham's bosom?
Where the oil is.
How are they going to find
everybody if it's in molten hot lava?
Oh.
Well, I mean, that's where hell is.
To pull him out for judgment.
Hell is in earth?
No.
I don't think it's in earth.
Is it in another realm?
I think it's another realm.
I don't know.
As a kid,
I always thought it was in the
molten lava.
Maybe.
I can't, but I've never been,
so I don't know.
I can't tell you for sure.
Either way.
And there's water in Abraham's bosom.
Hell is elsewhere.
Oh,
like another... And Sydney thinks the
edge of New York City might
be the end of hell.
See?
In the subway.
Right.
In the subway, for sure.
Okay, it's 52 minutes.
Wow, how did that time flew?
It did.
It was kind of like my
earlier Facebook Live,
when ranting about Togos.
Right?
Yeah, and it'd be an hour or two.
We had a couple prayer requests.
Did you get those?
It was just Cindy's traveling...
And I know a couple of
health requests that we have.
Anything you have?
Let's pray for the Togos family.
For the Togos family.
Is that what we're going to call them?
Yeah.
The family that owns Togos?
Yeah.
For peace.
Can we have peace in the hood?
Yes.
And the moms in Yorba Linda moms,
pray for them.
They need prayer.
Ooh,
scientists just found ocean inside the
earth.
That's fascinating.
Atlantis?
Yeah.
is in atlantis were there
people living in there I
actually have no um
geographical point of
reference for inside the
earth really yeah like I
don't even understand what that means
I don't know when was the
last time I had a deep
earth geography class.
All I remember,
I have this vague
recollection of pictures of
the cross section of the
earth and layers for the
study of dinosaurs.
What was that study called?
Do you remember what class that was?
It didn't do very well.
I always think of it like a baseball.
The skin on the outside of
the baseball is the surface
where we live.
Then when you go beneath that,
then you have all the
little strings that go
around the little thing.
Oh, okay.
And then you go a little bit deeper,
and then there's this
little rubber ball in the
middle with the strings all
wrapped around.
Sure.
Okay.
Let's pray.
Oh, no.
Hold on.
Is the door locked?
Did we lock the front door?
I heard it go beep, beep.
The door?
Yep.
Sorry,
I think she was maybe she wants to
order food or something.
OK, let's pray.
Dear Lord, thank you.
Thank you for allowing us to
be used by you.
Thank you for faith and for Jesus Christ,
your only begotten son,
you sent to earth incarnate
to live out as the perfect God man.
to suffer as we suffer,
to suffer from temptation and yet not sin,
to give us a way forward,
to show us by example.
We're just so grateful.
We're so grateful for all
that you have given us as believers.
And we want that gift for
everyone that we know, for our children,
for their children.
We want to leave a legacy of faith, Lord,
that they will say about us
when we leave the earth
that my parents loved Jesus.
We want healing, Lord.
We ask in the precious name of your son,
Jesus Christ,
we ask for healing for our loved ones,
for Eddie and for Carrie and for Kate.
And if any of the other viewers,
and for Cindy and for her traveling,
that you protect her while she travels.
Lord,
we just want restoration and good
health so that we may serve you better.
We ask for the provision
that you give without
measure that comes from
heavenly sources that makes
things possible, Lord,
when there is no logical
way in which things happen.
You are the way maker.
You are the miracle worker.
And we're asking for those
miracles and those ways to
be open to each and every one of us,
Lord.
We love you.
We honor you.
We offer ourselves as a living sacrifice.
It's in the mighty name of
Jesus that we pray.
Amen.
Oh, Paul's still hanging on.
Oh, amen.
Give him more opportunity to find Jesus.
Yes, I was telling her, I said that,
you know,
may the Lord give him faith like
the thief on the cross.
Oh, I didn't get to type this to Kate,
so I'm going to tell you now.
When I went to Pastor Jack
about my father and like
the concern that I had
about whether he accepted faith or not,
Pastor Jack said to me, he said, listen,
we don't send anybody to help.
We like to assume that
everybody on their last
breath had the opportunity
to meet Jesus and we don't know.
And he's like, you can't, he's like,
don't send, you don't send them to hell.
Leave that to God.
And it's interesting because
what God said to my heart
is it's with me now.
Leave it with me.
Didn't answer my question,
whether he believed or not.
But we pray that your
brother will see the Lord in his,
even if it's in his last
breaths and come to saving
faith in Christ before he passes.
Amen.
All right, my friends, we love you.
God bless.
Take care.